[Team Hold EM Hook]

300 watt or 500 watt halogen which and why

I am looking at either 4 500 watt halos around front and 3 300 halos along each side that's 3800 watts so if I figured correctly in order to run generator at 80% capacity I would need at least a generator making 6,840 watts at normal operation.
Option 2
is 10 300 watt lights for 3000 total watts, which would be a generator making at least 5,400 watts at normal operation.
Option 3
8 300 watt lights for 2,400 watts and use a generator that produces 4,320 watts at normal operation.
Option 4
6 300 watt lights for and 2 500 watt lights at 2,800 watts and use a 5,040 watt normal operation generator.
Sorry I got to figuring my different options there. Do the 500 watt lights make that much light. Looks like option 1 would definetly need more than a 5,000 watt generator would option 2,3 or 4 be the safest,economically way to go?
Thanks

 

[Throughthegills]

350w halos and 500w halos both put out 10,000 lumens of light.The problem with 350's is they don't make affordable ones any more.Do you have some?

 

[RobertP]

Agreed the 350ultras are tougher to find and run about $8 each last time I looked. And you are only saving 150 watts per light.

Also remember it is not the NUMBER of lights you have it is the spread. If you have two halogens right next to each other with only 1" between them then you are wasting light. It is not going to be brighter with two of them closer. You need to spread them out so that you get more coverage. Just my opinion but on a 6-7 ft deck you could easily have 3 lights down each side and 2-3 in front for a total of 8-9.

Also I could never tell any difference between a 500 and 350 in brightness. Halogens are great on price...which is a whole lot cheaper than HPS or MH.

 

[Team Hold EM Hook]

350w halos and 500w halos both put out 10,000 lumens of light.The problem with 350's is they don't make affordable ones any more.Do you have some?

I appogize I meant 300 watt

 

[Delta Dog]

I am looking at either 4 500 watt halos around front and 3 300 halos along each side that's 3800 watts so if I figured correctly in order to run generator at 80% capacity I would need at least a generator making 6,840 watts at normal operation.
Option 2
is 10 300 watt lights for 3000 total watts, which would be a generator making at least 5,400 watts at normal operation.
Option 3
8 300 watt lights for 2,400 watts and use a generator that produces 4,320 watts at normal operation.
Option 4
6 300 watt lights for and 2 500 watt lights at 2,800 watts and use a 5,040 watt normal operation generator.
Sorry I got to figuring my different options there. Do the 500 watt lights make that much light. Looks like option 1 would definetly need more than a 5,000 watt generator would option 2,3 or 4 be the safest,economically way to go?
Thanks

Your calcs are messed up. 3800w of light in option one require a 5000w running generator (which is 4000w @ 80%).

Option #2 for 3000w total needs a 4000w running generator (which is 3200w @ 80%).

Option #3 for 2400w total needs a 3000w running generator (which is 3200w @ 80%).

Option #4 for 2800w total needs a 3500w running generator (which is 2800w @ 80%).

 

[Throughthegills]

Agreed the 350ultras are tougher to find and run about $8 each last time I looked. And you are only saving 150 watts per light.

Also remember it is not the NUMBER of lights you have it is the spread. If you have two halogens right next to each other with only 1" between them then you are wasting light. It is not going to be brighter with two of them closer. You need to spread them out so that you get more coverage. Just my opinion but on a 6-7 ft deck you could easily have 3 lights down each side and 2-3 in front for a total of 8-9.

Also I could never tell any difference between a 500 and 350 in brightness. Halogens are great on price...which is a whole lot cheaper than HPS or MH.

I agree with a lot of this.Yeah you'll want enough fixtures to get good coverage.However what you said about two fixtures butted up against one another isn't going to be any brighter is wrong.On my old boat I had 11 350's.All of them running at once put off 110,000 lumens of light.I had them all on switches and could run as few or as many as I wanted too.For every light that got turned off there was a noticeable difference in brightness.It only stands to reason.Every time a switch got turned off I lost 10,000 lumens.If I only ran half of my lights I could only see about half as good as I could when they were all on.

Lumens is the amount of light each particular bulb puts out.The more lumens you have the better you'll be able to see.300's put out 5,950 lumens each and 500's put out 10,000 lumens each.There's not much difference between the two bulbs as far as lumen output per watt.300's produce 19.8333 lumens per watt and 500's produce 20 lumens per watt.It's all pretty simple math really.To put it in a nutshell 300's can put off just about as much light as 500's can, you'll just need more fixtures is all.Oh and the 350 bulbs now are about $30 or so bucks a pop.

 

[CPrice]

Here is a decent deal on the 225 ultra's
http://cgi.ebay.com/GE-HALOGEN-ULTR...emZ390198668305QQcategoryZ20706QQcmdZViewItem

 

[Throughthegills]

Here is a decent deal on the 225 ultra's
http://cgi.ebay.com/GE-HALOGEN-ULTR...emZ390198668305QQcategoryZ20706QQcmdZViewItem

Yeah but those put out the same amount of light as the 300's.I can buy 300 bulbs for fifty cents apiece.Those would be good for running a bunch of fixtures off of a small generator but that's about it.

 

[CPrice]

Yea, i feel the same way as you. I just seen them and thought someone might be interested. Back when i ran halos, I ran the GE proline 300's. They are rated for 130 volts and the life i got out of them was outstanding.

 

[Skin and scales]

Just get the hps and a smaller generator way more lumens and lot less genny to buy

 

[Delta Dog]

Yeah but those put out the same amount of light as the 300's.I can buy 300 bulbs for fifty cents apiece.Those would be good for running a bunch of fixtures off of a small generator but that's about it.

I agree, however I just bought 12 225's to replace all my 300's because: 1.) It was a bowfishing project for winter and I was bored. 2.) I can combine them with my 350's to max out my 16 lamps to get to 82% of my 5000w genny. 3.) if they are as tough as the 350's i will never have to replace one (I have run 350's for over 6 years and never replaced one). 4.) they were only $3.10 each including shipping (ebay).

Previously I had 2 (of my 8) dual lamp fixtures running only one 300w lamp due to over wattage issues...........the 225s will allow me to run dual lamps in all the fixtures and still not kill my genny.

Now I have an extra case of the 50 cent 300w lamps..............for something!!!

 

[B-RAD]

Just get the hps and a smaller generator way more lumens and lot less genny to buy

for real!!!!and a real quite genny a that!!but you need to spend a little money but its way worth it