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U most certainly can shoot flat heads in the head and it will go through no problem ever
 
If you would quit shootin that gilrs bow set at 20 pounds Hacksaw you would blow right trhough there heads. :laugh: Thats the only place i will shoot them. All these were stuck right in the ol melon.
 

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you aint shot many of em ownie.....come to the cooper tournament at the end of this month and see how that 17lbs works out for you...
17# here is like throwing the arrow at them. Pretty much useless.
It is not legal to shoot Cats here. They are a Game fish.
 
My osprey at 40 lbs won't put it all the way through there head 2 ft deep. I shot them in the back and sometimes get a pass through. My parter always head shoots them but never gets a pass through either. I shoot the 3 barb grapple. He shoots the pro point. I think both points are good. I have never shot the Cajun but Dixie has brought in some big ones using it
 
If you are going to shoot grapples at bigger fish. You better get you some poundage on your bow. 60-70# on average. That is about all we shoot on the west coast. I know Kuger does not like Grapples. I shoot the crap out of them. Kuger is in Southern Ca. and I am in Northern Ca. But shoot mostly North in Wa. Or. Id. and made it to Utah this year. Have not had an issue with grapples. Use them mostly in the rocky areas. My favorite head is the GD 4 barb. Tough as heck and holds well. Shooting those kids bows back east is a whole different world. You want a point that makes the smallest hole possible but still holds well. Muzzy with the barbs squeezed in. Innerlock Pro Point. Cajun Stingers. Gene Davis. It is mostly what works for you. We can not say what will work best with your set up. You need to get one of each and go shoot some fish. No point will fully penetrate a cats skull on low poundage. I have shot carp with 70# and had the point look just like in that cat. It is placement to get the penetration, not always poundage. Also the legth of the Barbs to get full hold on shallow penetration.
Just my 2 cents. Others shooting back east might be able to help you more.
Bite your tongue Doug!!!!I aint on So Cal!!!!I am over the mid way mark!!!!
 
you aint shot many of em ownie.....come to the cooper tournament at the end of this month and see how that 17lbs works out for you...
ive shot my fair share of catfish. but my opinion is different than yours, dosent mean its wrong. if i do come to cooper ill probably boost her up to 20 lbs. 17 lbs will give me pass thoughs on fish 2-3 foot deep as long as i dont hit the spine or head
 
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