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I typically run my 6 400s on 2 2000yamahas. When I run the converter and the other 2 400s I also run the 3000eu.
 
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I typically run my 6 400s on 2 2000yamahas. When I run the converter and the other 2 400s I also run the 3000eu.
You have a lot of money tied up in generators lol. How do the inverters handle the 6 400s? digital or magnetic ballast? If I dropped one of mights down a size I could be at the same power level as you.
 
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you got more money in generators then most people have in their boats haha. I have considered running 3 of the champion 2000's for my 3 converters and 4 400 hps. But i don't know where i would put them all...
For that price You could have 2 of the champion 3100 inverters. I'm not sure if it would work with your setup but it would save a little space maybe.....well unless you stacked all three champions.
 
I have a eu3000 that needs a $1700 electrical part I can't remember what it is called but it went out one month after the warranty went out. When it went out I just died, took it to the shop, you can un plug this thing and the motor cranks right up but makes no electricity... so I bought a new one, it got stolen 3 months later, then I two eu 2000.
What can I say they are Honda's they are bad ass.
 
I usually run the 6 400s on the 2 2000s and it does fine. Lumitek digitals. Btw no more lumiteks! They piss me off! Sometimes I'll switch 2 lights to 250s just to quiet things down a little. When the 3000eu is on the boat I run 6 400s on it. 2 400s on 1 2000 and interior lights, converter, LEDs and troller on the other 2000. It is a fairly heavy setup but they just sit back there and purr. Crank up the Neal diamond and roll on. Lol!
 
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how would you compare the 2 inverters with the 6 400s to a champion 3500/4000 non-inverter type genny ?? I know that seems like a stupid question but it is my understanding that inverters are very quite with a smaller load because they can throttle down, however, I wasnt sure how they sounded when there were running 3/4 throttle or more.
 
how would you compare the 2 inverters with the 6 400s to a champion 3500/4000 non-inverter type genny ?? I know that seems like a stupid question but it is my understanding that inverters are very quite with a smaller load because they can throttle down, however, I wasnt sure how they sounded when there were running 3/4 throttle or more.
I feel like im a decent candidate to answer that. I am running two champion 4000s right now... They are loud. i have them on each corner of the back of my boat and have been leaning a piece of 1/4" sheathing up against the generator, it helps a lot. But obviously still loud.

I fish out of a buddies boat quite often. He's got 7 80 watt seelites running of a honda 2000 on eco mode. It is ridiculously quiet. To the point that i myself would never consider running silent because i'l take the light hum in the back over the inconvenience of charging 37 batteries and waiting for them to die.

Fish off another buddies boat. He's got 2 honda 2000's pushing halogens. His honda are about maxed out. They are not whisper quite. I would honestly say they are about inbetween the champion 3500 and a honda 2000 on eco mode. So your assumptions are pretty close I would say.

That being said I personally would be very happy with the noise from a honda on full throttle. Especially on my boat where i can get them up and out of the way and use sheathing to direct some of the noise back.
the 3500 champs work good. Im a big believer in champion products. When i crank the tunes i can hear the music just fine. But they definitely leave room for improvement in the noise category lol.
 
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I feel like im a decent candidate to answer that. I am running two champion 4000s right now... They are loud. i have them on each corner of the back of my boat and have been leaning a piece of 1/4" sheathing up against the generator, it helps a lot. But obviously still loud.

I fish out of a buddies boat quite often. He's got 7 80 watt seelites running of a honda 2000 on eco mode. It is ridiculously quiet. To the point that i myself would never consider running silent because i'l take the light hum in the back over the inconvenience of charging 37 batteries and waiting for them to die.

Fish off another buddies boat. He's got 2 honda 2000's pushing halogens. His honda are about maxed out. They are not whisper quite. I would honestly say they are about inbetween the champion 3500 and a honda 2000 on eco mode. So your assumptions are pretty close I would say.

That being said I personally would be very happy with the noise from a honda on full throttle. Especially on my boat where i can get them up and out of the way and use sheathing to direct some of the noise back.
the 3500 champs work good. Im a big believer in champion products. When i crank the tunes i can hear the music just fine. But they definitely leave room for improvement in the noise category lol.
Thanks for the first hand experience! that helps a lot.
 
Honestly, if I were you guys, I would never buy anything but Hondas. A 6000btu a/c unit, later upgraded to a 8000btu unit that sees very frequent use. A medium-sized freezer/refrigerator unit -twice as big as a mini-fridge but smaller than a regular freezer-fridge unit. Two flood lights. Three overhead LED lights. A florescent bar. Two regular lights for the front and the generator. An LED bar for the storage/cooking shack. The powertool battery chargers. A car battery charger. Two desktops. An 11"x19.5" tv plus Xbox 360 and occasionally a Black and Decker tabletop convection oven.
The generator is run 24/7 and only turned off once a week to change the oil. We've had it for a year and a half and it only now gave any indication that it knew what breaking down was. Did the troubleshoot. Adjusted the little plastic screw controlling the idle to where it said i should have it. It's up and running again, perfectly fine.
Seriously, I live in Hawaii, this thing, plus the A/C, is the only thing keeping me from dieing in the summer.
 
Currently My hps setup runs 2600 watts (4 - 400watt hps and 4 - 250 watt hps all brand new magnetic ballast kits) . Based on ballast efficiency I believe that they are actually pulling a total of 2,950 watts and 34.5 amps. I have been looking into the inverter setups and I think I have just a little bit to much power to make any of them work correctly and last a long time.....

The champion 2000 inverters when run with a parallel kit are limited to 25 amps total, so I would be right at the limit if not over it.
The champion 3100 inverter 2800 continuous is slightly underrated for my needs also.
I'm unsure how the honda/yamaha's would do with my setup.....I would be interested to know if anyone has ran these with similar light setups.
The honda 3000 is out of my price range at the moment and slightly rated less than the 3100 champion.

I really want to go with an inverter so I am thinking about either changing out 2 of my 400s to 250s or changing the back 250's to 400s.

My layout (for the boat in my avatar pic) is 2 400s on the front, then a 250 on each side, then a 400 on each side, then a 250 on each side. I think If I dropped the 400 that is on the middle on each side then I wouldnt notice much. Or if I dropped the 250 that is on the back down to 150 I wouldnt notice much difference either.

I wonder if 2 champion 2000 inverters would be as quite as one 3100 champion inverter? Currently the Champion 3100 inverter is on sale for $699 shipping included.
I have a champion 4000 that's been constantly running for a year I only shut it down two times a day to check the oil and fill it up and this is a true post I'm running it right now I live off grid in Kentucky
 
I have the two Champion 2000s with the parallel box too. I use the 30 amp connection to my trailer. I'm running them on propane so I don't get the rated 28 amps. It'll run the AC, microwave, and frig no problem. But when my wife turn on the Keurig, it trips if the AC and frig is running. The stupid coffee maker takes 1650 watts to heat up the water.o_O
I have only been using them for camping trips a year now. Not sure how many hours.
I think one of the key things to do to assure the longevity of the engine, at least, is do the breakin. I remember doing the breakin oil changes and all the metal fillings which was in the oil. Miss that step and engine wear would go thru the roof.

-Keith
 
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