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Just Got Off The Phone With PowerMaxx & We Have Been Doing It All Wrong!

6.7K views 64 replies 18 participants last post by  Big Wood  
#1 ·
Maybe not all of us but using the forum search I was unable to find any mention of it previously so I wanted to share it.



My 1st question to PowerMax was actually my stating what my situation is in preparation for my second question but I got an answer I did not expect:

ME: So if I'm running a 56 Amp 24V trolling motor on a pair of 12V batteries wired in series I know I need a 12V converter hooked up to each battery individually, right?

PowerMax NO. That's not actually right. If you are charging a 24V system, the right way to do it is to charge with a 24V.

ME: But your 24V converters aren't available with enough amps to operate my Minn-Kota.

PowerMax No sir. That's why you will need to use two 12V converters of an amperage higher than that of your trolling motor wired in series the same way your batteries are. Run your negative output of one converter to the negative post of one of your batteries and the positive output of the other converter to the positive post of the other battery and use a jumper between the remaining negative and positive outputs of the two converters just as you do on the remaining two posts on your batteries. Our converters are made to be utilized in series. I don't know about other manufacturers but ours are. If you step up to a 36V system its done the same way except there's another battery and converter in each of the series. Converters and batteries both charge and discharge differently so charging the batteries within 24V or 36V series individually from 12V converters will shorten the life of your batteries and the converters as well as pose a risk to sensitive equipment. Just as your batteries have to be the same voltage and amp hours so do your inverters need to be the same voltage and amps. Best to keep both batteries and converters identical to each other. Be sure to always use inverter type generators. They are the only type that won't damage the boards within our units.



So I took all my "what"s and "duh"s out of it and probably condensed it some but that's basically the way it went. If interested, my second question was regarding any need to somehow protect the converters from other dc sources to the battery and the answer was no. First, any voltage above that the converter would expect to register will simply shift the converter into a float or trickle mode depending on the voltage and even spikes or higher voltages are buffered at the converter so no worries there.

He did mention that the new bowfishing PowerMax model released does not have a trickle mode so it's only a two stage converter. It sounds like these units move to float and then trickle mode after 15 minutes of bulk and to prevent that from happening they simply removed the last stage. He also stated emphatically that PowerMax converters are not damaging trolling motors. He told me that operating trolling motors for hours on end is what damages them. They're not made for that intense a duty cycle.
 
#50 ·
Ok...y'all brought up a good topic, but back on topic....

y'all think about chit to much. You know why you don't hook your converters up like powermax told you too, because if one converter goes out you don't charge any of your batteries... but hooked up the other way like we have dun for years....When one converter goes out you still got power and you can run for 3hr and swap battery/ converter combination...run for 3 hr then swap....that way you still stay hot....DO YOU UNDERSTAND? Our you can roll out like I do and not worry about it...I was wondering how long it would take you guys to finger diss out.
 
#52 ·
Sorry for the hijack... new thread...:D
 
#58 ·
Well....I got my truck stuck about 3 hrs ago...I just got it out and I'm going to go find some hogs right meow, but tomorrow I'm gonna try to kill me a rolling gator gar. I hate night fishing. <a href="http://s270.photobucket.com/user/wbg444/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-05-08-20-47-51_zpsldtgxqji.png.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj110/wbg444/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-05-08-20-47-51_zpsldtgxqji.png" border="0" alt=" photo Screenshot_2015-05-08-20-47-51_zpsldtgxqji.png"/></a>
 
#65 ·
IM glad we don't have all that stuff on the battery system here at work. If we have a 24VDC system we use a 24VDC converter. I just bought a PM3-55 to keep accessory battery hot. If i was y'all i'd keep the converters plugged up when the boat was parked. During the winter my troller batteries go in the camper in a 3 bank 12V system and can run heater all night with no generator. Just run geny during day some to charge or run TV for kids and when the camper leaves deer camp it goes to the house they just stay charged till its time to start fishing. I don't have any issues with draining batteries, except the stupid nav-aid light draining the battery, course i probably don't run as hard as some of you guys.