Shot placement is key. After they spawn their bellies are empty and baggy making them soft. Hence if you shoot them in the stomach the arrow has nothing to hold onto. Nothin you can really do but hit em up on the shoulder. What kinda points are you using?

 

Gene a Bob Davis.... two barbed...

 

My couch pulls out, I Don't!

 

shoot them in the face with a Gene Davis they won't come off

 

Spine em or shoot dem sum beaches in da face

 

with the right head your shaft should never pull out!!!!! sorry i had to say it.

 

I'm shooting sure shot penetrator points. Boonehunter, I know you had to say it lol, I had to post it that way too lol.

 

we shoot cajun 4 barb lil stingers for everything. rpm makes a similiar tip as well as gene davis. another tip i like for soft buffs grassies and commons are the interloc grapples.

 

The two tips I shoot are shure shots and gene Davis 4 barbs. You're on the right track. I use the gene Davis when I need more holding power than the shure shot (rarely).

 

Are the gene Davis quick release? I went to the sure shot from muzzys for the twist release in fish. Speed is vital for me in tourneys, get em in the boat as fast as possible and get back on fish.

 

No they are not quick release!
A warhead the best quick release point IMO!

 

3 barb grapples will hold em!

 

And my other problem is a lot of the time we don't actually "see" a fish. Most of our water is so muddy that we shoot shadows or movement lol. Unless they are on the top.

 

IMO if your shooting big fish then your better off using something with more holding power even tho they will be slower. I actually like the Muzzy big fish adapters. Yes it takes a little more time to get the fish off but your a lot better off with taking the time to get them off than to loose them. You are also a lot better off to hit them up high where there is more meat to hold.

 

Pulling out... what is that?

 

Haha

 

I've had the best luck with gene Davis 2 barbs but the muzzy big fish adapter helps a lot.

 

rpm makes a NOS point with longer barbs and Cajun Piranaha Long Barbs work Great too!

 

cajun lil stinger 4 barbs are the only point i use for big fish.... piranhas or the shure shots are all i use for numbers.

like others have said, try to hit them high in the shoulder and get a pass through and u will usually land the fish. especially with a static tip like the lil stingers

 

Are you shooting numbers or big 20? If your shooting big 20 you shouldn't need to worry as much about speed

 

Had the exact same problem last year. Shooting all the way through fish and still pulling out. Chalked it down to Sure Shots being the main reason. The quick release is nice but when the tips tightened down those barbs dont flip sideways and stay at a 90 degree with the shaft like any other regular point, like a cajun phirana. so if the barbs stay vertical they just go right back through the holes they already made or make brand new ones real quick on the summer soft fish. I quit sure shots and quit pulling out. haha every time I hear someone on here say this my first thought is "well were ya using sure shots?" kept reading and sure enough...

 

Pinch barbs in. Smaller the hole harder to pull out

 

Sure shots are horrible for soft fish

 

90% of the time I shoot Cajun long barbs pinched together. When water gets hot and fish get soft I move to Cajun lil stinger 4 barbs (mainly big cats). Then when all else fails innerloc 3 blade grapples (Usually buffs) in august. The first time I got into the buffs I was shooting the long barbs. Probably boated 1/3 of what was hit. Then moved to the lil stingers and picked up to about 50%. Mostly due to the huge hole they blowed in the fish. The last outing I had when I was in them I used the 3 blade grapples. I boated 78 buffs and had 3 pull offs. By far has been the best holding point I have used in those conditions.