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carp1831

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Hi all,

Haven't posted on here in quite some time. People outside of the bowfishing community certainly stumble upon this site, so I'd like to give some first hand insight about the COBF and details regarding topics that have been posted on this forum the past few months.

A) I've been heavily involved with the COBF, before it was an organization around 2007. I've put in a fair amount of personal time, money and effort into seeing that our sport has some level of organization in our state before some other group out there decides that "bowfishing" is unethical or I see another traditional American past-time be thrown under the bus. Without some kind of organization, this sport will be rolled over quicker than anything you have ever seen by carp fishing groups, animal rights groups and simply un-informed well wishers. With no organization we will have nothing and it will revert back to an discardable afterthought in the minds of regulatory officials and everyone else.

B) In 2008/2009 we did a lot of work to setup a non-profit at the state and federal level. The COBF is a 501c7. We opened up memberships. We researched and structured the organization similar to other hunting, fishing, bowfishing clubs out there. We opened up additional Board positions for members to become more involved. 2010 was the first year for officer elections. This year we have 8 members of the Board who were nominated and elected by the membership at large to run the organization. Believe me, sometimes there are *very* differing opinions on the Board, there is no "group think", and every major decision was brought before as a vote within the Board. In the fall of 2011 this cycle will repeat and every member will have the opportunity to get involved or throw out the current leadership; that is if they choose to run again. I would encourage some fresh faces to step up and think about nominating themselves or others for the eight positions that will be open to election this fall (plus others should that be decided at the annual meeting and Bylaws amended). There are even more opportunities to be involved, we have sent several notices on people signing up to be BAA or NBFA state reps and liasoning for the COBF Board. Please let us know if you want to do this.

C) General Membership Meetings: We have not had a ton of general membership meetings because first we are very small organization and to get things done, growing and up and running certain decisions need to be made quickly. An elected Board of directors is there to take feedback from and represent the club members. In the past we've surveyed and asked for feedback at member meetings and online and tried to act in accordance with those results. If anyone in the club wants hear an explanation on how the tournament venues/dates were decided please shoot me an email. I am pretty sure one of the other Board members on here has the original spreadsheet which laid out the decision tree. The feedback received from the 2009 and 2010 annual surveys/feedback received by folks at the annual meeting has been taken into account by the Board in deciding what goes on with regards to tournaments, rules etc. For some things where no information is available, the Board has used its best judgment to make decisions at the time they come up. Sometimes they are on spot, other times they are not. Some will like a given decision and others will disagree as is the nature of clubs.

D) In 2011 we have been having more general membership meetings. Anyone is free to bring up any subject they want addressed. Also please email the Board any specific agenda item added to the docket. The number of general membership meetings we put together is based on the amount of feedback, response to COBF emails we get and general interest shown by the membership. In 2009/2010 the feedback was somewhat minimal so that is all we have to go off and that is why there have not been a ton of meetings to discuss every issue that comes up. Some things have to be decided by the Board otherwise we have a chance to become paralyzed if we try to get dozens of people together for each decision. We have to move on decisions. Are they sometimes imperfect? Certainly, but we are young and growing and learning lessons all at the same time. Each time a suggestion, complaint or feedback is received there is a flurry of discussion amongst the Board and this year many things will have an opportunity to be adjusted during discussions at the annual meeting. This year there are 3 mid-year member surveys that have gone out already. These will be used to set the agenda for the annual meeting in August. So far about 30 of the 50 members have responded, if you have yet to respond please do so or email us if you are having any issues with the survey!

E) Memberships: The organization started this year with about 35-38 members and we are now at 50. Early this year we lost a few and picked up many more. In 2012 that pattern will likely repeat itself as it is the nature of clubs. The COBF is a 501c7 club and in order to retain that status, per federal requirements, we must operate like a club and ensure exclusivity for the members who choose to join. One of the new things we introduced this year is a different fee structure which still permits the public to participate in events but gives discounts to COBF members. This has definitely increased the club's roster which is a good thing. Regarding 2011 renewals, of those who did not renew, we received only one set of specific negative feedback regarding the addition of 3 man teams tournaments at night. The other non-renewals were due (A) to they missed the deadline or cannot afford it, (B) the people who were originally members no longer live in Colorado or (C) they originally signed up in years past for the sole purpose of a donation rather than really being interested in bowfishing. Of our entire membership base I'd estimate a smaller subset post/read this forum and not everyone on the forum are COBF members. Although posting in a forum labeled "COBF", the opinions and posters on this forum do not necessarily represent the organization as a whole, rather they represent a subset, albeit very passionate and valued subset of the bowfishing community. We all need to keep in mind that there are a lot more people out there who bowfish casually, enjoy coming to one or two tournaments, are slowly getting more into the sport. Not everyone is as "into it" as others are and my guess is that those percentages will generally remain constant over time. ALL opinions and styles of shooting should be represented in the COBF (boaters, non-boaters, casual, serious, night, day), that is one of the main reasons for more varied tournaments. To give more opportunities, and also at night to permit people who don't have night rigs to get on board with teams that do. There were several member responses on the surveys where people want to bowfish at night, but don't have a rig. Due to 3 man teams we have been able to get a few folks who have never been out at night on some of the other member's night rigs which is positive.

F) Issues at tournaments: In previous years we have never really had any major issues. The general policy has simply been if we get reports, we look for evidence at the time of the report and look into as can reasonably be done so at the time. We have relied heavily on the honor system; but as we all know, the bigger things get, the more that has the chance of breaking down. Generally we are dealing with violations which if reported and found to be broken, give the violating team a *significant competitive advantage* over other teams (for example red-zone issues). This year following the event, there was an issue brought up about motors at Barr being being seen in/out of the water, running/not running, likely when folks are trying to get across the lake etc. There were quite a few rangers on site and on the lake speaking with and observing participants and we received no reports while the event was in motion. We do not patrol the lake. There was one reported violation during the AM (red zone), we looked into it, verified and notified the violating team and issued a penalty. That said, were there possibly some violations on that day regarding the hp limits? Certainly, and if they were not reported, or the club was not aggressive enough in going after folks and looking out for this specific item in particular, then I'll apologize on behalf of the club for everyone. Since then we have spoken directly with the head ranger at the lake, and since they received a complaint from an individual following the tournament, Barr lake staff will be stepping up their enforcement of their rules across the board, which arguably as we all know; they themselves have been inconsistent, sometimes lacking with enforcing and even varying with interpretation.

Secondly, there appears to have been some confusion regarding the canal access rule at the 6/11 tournament. I was not present however MP in a previous post has explained the details of how he worked with Barr's head ranger to get this opened up for folks which due to the park went down to the wire on a decision. If this change, which was documented on the maps, was not communicated well to all participants clearly, then again we apologize. There was obviously no ill-intent and we do our best from a due diligence standpoint by working with venue management for every tournament that is organized by the club. I would encourage everyone to please speak up and notify event officials of any concerns during a event, rules orientation and definitely before the awards ceremony. The Board will do its best to hear any issues, deliberate investigate and figure out if correction is necessary. Unfortunately we can't do much if nothing is said and its only heard about days later via rumblings in the community. I am confident that we as a club can come up with some good ideas and consistent procedures for better keeping an eye out and enforcing violations. This will be discussed at upcoming member meetings and ideas will be collected via the surveys.

(Part 2, next post)
 
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PART (2)

G) Pike: The COBF had nothing to do with this issue. The organization did not request it, we did not solicit it, we did not send in any opinions on it, nor did we attend any of the Wildlife Commission Meetings. This issue was solely initiated and brought forth by internal staff within the DOW Aquatics Department based on needs they determined were present. The COBF Board only became aware of it late summer/fall via a DOW press release online. The Board then discussed if the COBF wanted to send in a letter for/against/neutral but never did this because the DOW commission already made their decision. That said, the DOW made the change. Bowfishermen can choose to bowfish for Pike or not bowfish for Pike. It is legal where permitted and it is each individual's responsibility to be informed of the law and do as they choose free from harassment. Outside of wringing our hands over the issue of how this looks for the bowfishing community and fighting amongst ourselves, there is not much we can do about it, nor frankly should we in my opinion. The best we can do is explain the issue to others and educate them about the regulations in a professional, ethical, non-emotional and reasonable manner. To add to the confusion, the DOW incorrectly listed the COBF in the original internally DOW authored issue paper as an interested party which was false. The COBF Board made a written a request this May to the DOW personnel asking first why were we cited without the COBF's knowledge, and second officially asking the DOW to correct the issue paper and issue an amendment/correction explaining the mistake on their part. The DOW (who we have excellent relationships with) looked into the history of the issue and acknowledged the mistake on their part in an official letter to the COBF (they don't know why/how we were included, likely an assumption). The DOW's correction letter is also in the process of being filed with the state records office as a matter of public record. Would the COBF had officially gotten behind this effort had the DOW brought us in on the loop? Had we have known it would have been brought forth to the club for discussion and decided then; however in this case our issue with the original issue paper was that we were listed without consent and that needed to be clarified.

For the record, in years past the COBF's communications with the DOW up to and including 2010 had been on the topics of SWA properties regulations in 2008, a COBF/DOW meet & greet to discuss Carp management and fisheries management; crossbow use for the disabled and finally getting "bowfishing" listed as a method o take in the DOW Master Anglers Program (pending). We also hope to be meeting with the Aquatics department sometime this summer during/after July. The Board had never discussed requesting additional species other than the very specific item (H) below and that was only in 2011 subject to a member vote.

H) Salmon snagging: The Board discussed and drafted very simple issue paper earlier this year to ask the DOW to consider permitting bowfishing to harvest Salmon during the snagging season only as an additional method of take, and ONLY during the snagging season. This issue paper was openly discussed at the May member meeting, voted upon and passed. This issue paper will be presented this summer. The argument for this is that if the DOW's goal is to harvest as many of these fish before they die and if that is indeed the goal then it seems reasonable that archery should be permitted as well. Why waste a prized editable natural resource that will soon die and can be utilized for food. This same general argument applies to DOW fish kills for lakes (not addressed by this issue paper), where archery is often not permitted, yet the goal is maximum harvest recovery of fish. Will this be approved? Who knows; the DOW wildlife commission will fully vet the issue from all angles as they are the final decision makers; we are simply presenting ideas. If anyone would like details on the presentation please email us. We are also encouraging all COBF members to come out and attend.

I) Night tournaments and 3 man teams: The board deliberated on A) whether to have night tournaments at all B) team sizes. This was based on the member survey from 2010. The 3 man team issue has always been a stickler in years past, i.e. 3rd parties helping out, some folks wanted drivers, other organizations permit 3 man teams etc. Once night was brought up arguments were thrown out for 3 man teams and some of the reasons were including permitting a separate driver who could shoot, allow non-night rigged COBF members to join a team with a night setup, have an extra hand on board for helping at night, and lastly to operate similarly to how other organizations do. The point being on why this was not brought before the general membership for an overall club vote was as simple as this: The Board in no way thought this would turn out to be an issue for anyone, plain and simple. We really have no other explanation that that; we just did not foresee this being a problem. If this decision upset anyone then there will be a chance to rectify this at the annual meeting. This item is currently in the member survey thats out there to get a baseline on member's thoughts on this. Currently about ~90% of the members like the 3 man option, with some issues around consistency for this option (night/day). At the Annual Meeting this will likely be discussed. A vote will likely be held on continuing, discontinuing or modifying this rule.

J) Relationships with parks/DOW: We have traditionally had excellent relationships with the State Parks and DOW. They know the club well and always invite us back as they want us to keep doing damage to their Carp numbers! They appreciate that the club always leave the facilities clean and as we found them and give us excellent recommendations to new parks/venues where we use them as referrals. We have a good record with the venues, (including night events) and have received no complaints in the past, other than one this year regarding bucket dumping and a second regarding a notice about one of the member's motor's noise/hp level a few weeks after the Barr day tournament which was subsequently rectified. We follow up with each DOW officer and/or Park management after each event to get any feedback and check-in on how things went from their perspective. We also know a few folks at the DOW from our previous commission paper work, as well as some within the aquatics group. Again this year we are hoping to have a meet and greet with their staff to discuss carp management, we shall see if this happens. Our next contact point is in July. We have also asked them yearly if they would like to send out some biologists to collect any data on the carp harvested at tournaments as we collect a pretty good sample of carp. In years past they simply do not have the time and or budget to to meet about or discuss carp (somewhat understandably). Overall though, there is not a ton to manage regulatory wise for bowfishing. We are self regulating and they like us! Other ideas for working with the Parks are to do some more lake cleanups and teaming up for some COBF/DOW/State Park branded signs to remind bowfishermen to not leave fish at the parks; take what they harvest. Again more ideas for discussion amongst the members.

K) Non-tournament events: Going forward, personally I feel that this is what the COBF needs to be doing more of with less focus on tournaments. The organization's origins came out of the practice of conducting tournaments to get folks together and meet other bowfisherman etc. Given that, It is only natural that by conducting such tournaments that the continued growth of them has occurred via the COBF. If it were my say I'd go for 4 tournaments max organized by the COBF and 4+ other events (booths, awareness, outings, seminars etc). I know many members in the club want more than or at least equal to the number of tournaments we are having in 2011, PLUS other events (working with youth groups (one is in the works), seminars, booths etc). It is really going to be hard for next year's Board to put together, manage and execute both of those competing tasks without some balance or this becoming a full time job. The current survey is tracking ~70%+ of respondents want the 2012 focus to be non-tournament events, yet still the membership base wants 7+ tournaments in 2012. These are competing focuses and I'd suspect something will have to give. I suggest more balance with youth events, seminars, manning booths and introductory bowfishing outings for the public. There can still be more tournaments in Colorado, but they don't necessarily have to put organized by the COBF all the time; there are already one or two others out there managed privately in our state and that is fine. The tournaments definitely bring in new-comers to the sport and also expose the general public to the sport (as do the booths). We always get new folks who come up with lots of questions and excitement about the sport, unfortunately, unless they are already into the outdoors, they are unlikely to have an opportunity to the try the sport. We've had several folks come up with small kids and they themselves have never done anything remotely like bowfishing/hunting. If we had an safe/organized avenue to take folks out on general "outings" to give people a try (in a non-tournament setting) that might help with this. Booths are also a good thing, we've traditionally done Bass Pro. The ISE (International Sportsmans Expo) is still very expensive and out of our budget (~$1200+) and we do not qualify size wise for the non-profit group discounts. Barr Lake is having more public events and they consistently invite us out there which is good. We were just invited to one on the 16th however it unfortunately conflicts with our other obligation at Jackson. Overall this area will be one I'd like to see next years Board primarily focus on in 2012.

L) Member involvement: 2011 has been great as we have more active Board members, and additional folks helping out at the events and… the club needs more of it! The Board puts in a lot of time and effort to make all of this happen, from the booths, to the tournaments there is a ton of behind the scenes work that goes into this. That said, I'd would really, again really, like to encourage those of you who are passionate about bowfishing to get involved; nominate yourself or another member to run for an Officer or Regional Rep position later this fall. I imagine there are going to be several opportunities for some fresh faces to step up to the plate to keep this thing running and growing.

(Part 3, next post)
 
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PART 3

Whats the state of bowfishing in Colorado? I would argue its overall pretty positive. In the years I've been involved with all of this, anytime a newcomer comes up to a booth or one of our events all I see are smiles, lots of questions and excitement about trying it themselves and thats a good thing. My intent for even getting involved with helping get something off the ground was quite simple: this fun and positive sport of bowfishing had no organizational representation in our state and this sport appeared to be an (often not even existent) afterthought from a regulatory standpoint; information was hard to find, inconsistent answers with regards to regulations abounded everywhere, and no organized body looking over it. Hence a community of bowfishermen needed to put together so at a minimum folks know of other bowfishermen in the state, a community develops and there is an entity there for advocacy. Today we have 50 members plus many more non-members in the community out there who are more aware of the sport and each other. We have good relationships with the DOW, lakes and State Parks and solid associations with the BAA and NBFA national organizations plus the bowfishing industry in general. People have made new friends and many new folks have been exposed to this great sport. There is a robust and growing community out there, members and non-members alike who are in touch with each other and staying on top of the issues. This is all positive.

Lastly please note that the Board really takes in the feedback it does receive very seriously; and again, it cannot be said often enough, this organization is young and will go through trial and errors as it grows. Lessons will be learned and it will likely take quite some time for the club to evolve. This is a volunteer effort. I'd hope the COBF can regain any member that has left, or those who have never joined and are on the fence. The cost is minimal and the purpose is good. Overall I would encourage folks to be cordial to one another even if we disagree; lets keep the conversations constructive and try to provide specific solutions with some willingness and personal effort to seem them through. Pick up the phone to talk; meet face to face or come to an event, and finally please get involved. We wont all agree and thats fine and in many ways reflects the health of an organization.

Again, I also hope that more people will become involved when the nomination time comes for Officers and Regional Reps later this year; as that is where the rubber hits the road and you can turn your personal wishes for bowfishing in the State of Colorado into real elbow grease.

If anyone has any questions certainly feel free to shoot me a pm.

Thanks all and good luck bowfishing!
 
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