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Man if I was a male gator gar, I might just turn gay! They are 1/3 the size of the gal they are courting. She bites them all up, rips their tails and fins off. And for what???? Just the chance to squirt on some eggs stuck to the grass! Dangit man!
Ha ha ha!! Good point!!



 
If i want to just do some shallow creek shooting i have to go downstream as only a couple hundred yards upstream and i'm in the lake just upstream from my shop.I usually crank up the troller and speedshoot going down as the carp are usually all facing upstream and i spook more then i get on the initial pass.On the way back upstream however,i slow down and sneak up on them from behind and the fish in the boat ratio goes way up.
Thats it right there! I do the same thing on gatorgar and longnose.
 
I thought this was a joke when i saw it but I guess not..... YOU SHOULD ALWAYS FISH UPSTREAM if there is current! Fish in current ALWAYS face upsteam. If you are going down, you are trying to come right into his eyesight. Going upstream lets you come up frome their blind spot. Thought everyone knew that. Guess i just took that for granted.
makes sense
 
I wasnt trying to be a know-it-all either. Just that I have fished the current in the trinity all my life and absolutely take it for granted that you have to shoot upstream to maximize the school. Lots of times we will drift through a school of fish till we get below them and then troll back into them. If we shoot a couple on the way down , the school will bust up and thats all we get. When we troll up into them , we can pick em off without spooking the fish upstream. Load the boat that way!
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GAR roll INTO the current,just like a plane takes off into the wind.They have air bladders which act as ballasts.When air supply is low,bladder shrinks,forces them to the surface to "gulp" air.The current acts as headwind and allows them to get "lift" to the surface.
 
Lots of times we will drift through a school of fish till we get below them and then troll back into them. If we shoot a couple on the way down , the school will bust up and thats all we get. When we troll up into them , we can pick em off without spooking the fish upstream. Load the boat that way!
thats exactly how you shoot bigheads on the missouri. Drift past the wing **** then troll up to the slack water area where the fish are holding. Cover lotsa water that way.
 
You need more troller and converters. If you are having to let the current push your boat you must be seriously undertrollered. ........ Having a 80# troller on a 1655 is priceless for fishing in the current. A constant 26 volts from the converters ain't no bad thing either!!!

I am not going to feed the argument much here, but I am going to throw in my $.02. The part of the river the Sorny and Vinnie were talking about has more current than what you guys are accustomed to. I have a 101# on my 1654 and I can NOT pull upstream into the current, at best I can break even and hold at a standstill for a period of time. Fishing it upstream into the current is not an option. Even if you mounted twin 101# trollers, you would be making so much noise that the bigheads and grass carp that are feeding at the surface would never stand for that kind of noise. Deeper fish are not a problem because visibility is rarely over 6 inches.
 
That's exactly the kind of current I'm talking about. Hit that 101 with about 39-40 volts and you'll be suprised.
 
In a boat I go upstream 98% of the time. If the motor dies I can still get back to the ramp. I do have one spot that downstream is the way to go but I have also been stranded 3 miles downstream there. sucks.
 
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