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what all the R A G E.... NOT impressed!!!

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#1 ·
Well everyone keeps telling me how great the rage broadheads are and since I have been selling them and getting requests for more I figured what the heck maybe their is something to them. I have never been a fan of mechanical blades! I generally use Muzzy or Slick Tricks!
-First dear I used a rage on was a 1.5 year old doe and I must say The Rage made a massive hole and a heck of a blood trail! Shot was 33-34 yard away broad side double lung. She ran a 15 yard semi circle and fell over dead!

-Second deer with a rage was a 3.5-4.5 mature buck, shot was 16-18 yards, broad side, slight quartering away. The shot was text book perfect, sound of the crack, big mule kick, buck took off plowing threw the corn like a dozer! When I got down I was shocked to not see my arrow and only find sprits of blood high on the corn leaves. I backed out and went back to the far with my head hung low thinking I must have crewed something up!
Went back two hours latter, we had visible blood high on the right side of the corn (entry side) and was able to track with out to much trouble but it was not the massive paint spill I saw with the first deer! Deer went about 60-70 yards and plowed out. I walked over and looked at the entry it was huge but the exit was the size of my pinky!
After skinning the deer I found:
-the entry hole was only 2" threw the first layer of muscle, broadhead went in between two ribs, as it passed in between the ribs on of the blades snapped. making a hole into the chest cavity that my index finger barely fit in. It then passed threw both lungs and exited the left side leaving a hole the size of my pinky (size of the head without the blades open)
I am NOT Impressed, needless to say I WILL NOT be taking a chance on them again, and plan on sending my story and pictures onto rage to see what they have to say!
I admit the end result was successful, but not how I like to see it done!
[/B]OUTSIDE ENTRY WOUND [/B]
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INSIDE ENTRY WOUND
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OUTSIDE EXIT WOUND
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BROKEN RAGE BROADHEAD
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#2 ·
I bought into the hype a few years back and went with the 2 blades as well. I have only shot two deer with them (one a 1.5 yr old doe and the other a 3.5 yr old doe) but they have worked flawlessly for me. I hit the young doe further back than I wanted and basically cut the liver in half with a clean pass through. However, it broke ribs going in and out and the blades stayed in tact. The blood trail she left was huge and she only went about 15 yards before piling up. On the older doe (two weekends ago) I put a good double lung shot, broke ribs in and out and the blades were still good to go. I was not happy about the blood trail at first, but it was pretty easy to follow (nothing like the liver shot from last year), but she was dead about 30 yards from where I hit her. I admit, that I do not like shooting a broadhead that I have to worry will not work every time I shoot it, but so far it has done me very good. After I burn up these and my replacement blades, I am going to go back to my old Muzzy 3 blades, just for simplicity.
 
#4 ·
Ive shot plenty of deer with them and I will never use anything else. Never lost a deer. But I shot muzzy 3 blades for years and never lost one with them either.

Those slick tricks though.....JUNK! Absolute JUNK! Buddy of mine used to use them bc "they fly just like boradheads" since theyre such a small cutting diameter and he lost 4 deer in one season with them, and these are textbook shots quartering away. Ive even filmed a few of them, In fact the one deer he did shoot with them that we found was a great shot dead broadside right behind the shoulder plate and that deer ran 400 yards and we only found him bc there was snow on the ground and what little blood those little bastards did leave behind was easy to spot. It all comes down to personal experience which I understand but things do happe. The deer couldve been standing weird or a bone barely hit or whatver causing the issue that you may not ever experience again.

But with rage being the company leading boradhead sales both through 2009,2010 and now 2010, I dont see them having an issue and your one bad review killing their reputation. The reason why everyone is raging about them is because they are the best, bar none. Why do you think this other companies are copying them in all sorts of ways.

Shoot one more with them and see what happens.
 
#5 ·
SLick tricks are the worst broadhead ever developed. I shot them way before they were even offered to the public. Muzzy offers the very same broadhead with their "MX" series, same diameter and dimensions of the slick trick and they are horrible as well. The classic Muzzy 3 blades shoot just like field points out of my bow, so why would I or anyone else go with a broad head that has a smaller cutting diameter? Thats senseless. I will say that muzzy prolly makes one of the best/durable fixed blade broadheads on the market, and they have been doing it for a long time, but the rage is one of the best ive used. AND it can be shot through a net like on my double bull which is what we have to use out here in west texas
 
#6 ·
You also need to choose a broadhead that works for the area your hunting, that may seem dumb to say but its true. For example, If up in montana stalking mule deer, Im not gonna carry the rage broad heads with me Im taking the trusty classic muzzy 3 blade. Reason, well when your spot and stalking you dont have time to be pressing the blade sinto place once you remove themm from your quiver for a quick shot. And also, in that wide open country Im okay with giving up that 3/4" of cutting diameter since I will prolly see the deer go down.

If Im in the brush country of north texas then I will most likely carry the rage. I need a blood trail ray charles could follow becuase it so damn thick, and that 2" will do the trick
 
#7 ·
Hey Clark Calm down before the pop a nut! Im not here slandering one!!! I am just pointing out my findings! For me if a head cant smash threw a rib it not for me! I could maybe understand a shoulder blade breaking a Broadhead but a rib... Come on!
 
#8 ·
Rage is the best imo bar none. I have used them for 4 years now taken several deer and two black bears. Both bears were 24 yards and never ran over 25 yards. They leave one heck of a hole and a massive blood trail. I like em:tu:
 
#10 ·
You guys that have used them for years... NO on has had this problem??? I mean pictures dont lie!!! YOU CAN SEE IT DID NOT MAKE EVEN A 1" HOLE IN THE CHEST CAVITY! Im open to hear reasons for the failure!
I AM ALWAYS OPEN TO LEARN MORE!!!!
 
#14 ·
ive got a friend that shoots them.. he couldnt get a pass through with them for nothing. shot three or four deer with them, and couldnt get a pass through leaving little blood, even though he found the deer. this year he bought a new, faster bow, and started shooting heavier arrows. he is getting pass throughs now and loves the broadheads. i helped him track one earlier this year that was shot way back and quatering hard. just clipped one lung. altho there was barely any blood, the deer only went 40 yards and bedded down and was dead two hours later. i couldnt believe we found that deer after seeing the shot placement.
 
#11 · (Edited)
clark3, you sir, are crazy...

slick tricks are the chit.

they have a LARGER cutting diameter than muzzy 3 blade, have cuts instead of 3, they do fly very well, and will never fail you.

i could understand someone liking one style broad head over another, but bashing a slick trick because it has a small cutting diameter, then praising muzzy, which has a smaller cutting diameter is kinda silly.

edit: muzzy three blades have a 1/16 inch larger cutting diameter on the three blade. but still.
 
#16 ·
clark3, you sir, are crazy...

slick tricks are the chit.

they have a LARGER cutting diameter than muzzy 3 blade, have cuts instead of 3, they do fly very well, and will never fail you.

i could understand someone liking one style broad head over another, but bashing a slick trick because it has a small cutting diameter, then praising muzzy, which has a smaller cutting diameter is kinda silly.
Umm the origional slick tricks only had a 1" cutting diameter, which is 3/16" of an inch smaller then the standard 3 blades. Thats a huge difference I dont know where you got your info from. Even the slick trick mags, which is an exact copy of the Muxxy 0's arent that big
 
#12 ·
That hasnt happened to me Scott. It happened a few times with grim reapers but not rage. That's why I made the switch. Pics don't lie, just not sure what happened. I say give em another try and if it happens again switch.
 
#13 ·
BOW INFO:
2010 Hoyt Maxxis
62# Draw
29" Draw Length
Easton Flatline arrow
3" Fusion vanes
100gr. Rage 2 blade
 
#15 ·
I didnt mean to get defensive scott, dont take it like that Im just saying that everyone has a bad experience from time to time. Ive never had this issues I dont know how many animals ive taken with the rage but Ive taken a lot. The worst issue Ive ever had was my fault, arrow hit a limb and hit the deer in the rear thigh/ass and broke off when he ran but I still found the deer 60 yards away and the rage was messed up bad. But the others no issues at all. Shot plenty on hard quartering shots through the ribs and had the arrow stick in the opposite shoulder (my favorite shot) and Im still using those boradheads today. I replace the blades once a year but shoot multiple animals with them throughout the year. Never seen a blade break like that
 
#18 ·
The shot WAS A PASS THREW it was just after it hit the rib bones it looks like one blade broke and the other folded back. the exit hole is about the size of your pinky finger (same size as the head with the blades closed) I found in 2 pieces, the front half of the arrow were the dear was standing and fletched end about 10 feet away.
 
#19 ·
Dixie the Original muzzy 3 blade has 1 3/16" cutting diameter which is much larger then the slick tricks that everyone praises because their so compact they fly like fieldpoints.
 
#24 ·
The number of blades dont make that big of a difference, and go ahead and edit your earlier post where you were wrong about the muzzys having a smaller diameter while you can. And if you saw the area we hunted youd understand its the thickest briar infested/grapvine/mesquite infested brush you can immagine. Those slick tricks dont leave much of a bloodtrail at and they were all good shots we found 2 of the deer two days later and they were great shots double lunged and about 1/8" away from the heart, so had he been using muzzy o's, he wouldve hit the heart! kidding on the heart part but he really lost 4 deer on great shots with the slinder 1" slick tricks
 
#37 ·
That's where u are wrong, the number of blades makes a big difference. Cut Diameter doesn't mean much at all. It's about cutting Surface!
Now your 2" rage two blade have a 2" of cutting surface, meaning they do damage to 2" of tissue. A ST standard has 1" cut dia but it also has 2" of cutting surface which cuts 2" of tissue. The damage done by both heads are the same. Now a ST Mag that it 1 1/8 cut diameter has 2 1/4 cutting surface. So infact does more tissue damage then your two blade rage.... Number of blades do matter.
On a side not, STs are way stronger then a muzzy and the MX4 u claim are the same as a ST are not even close. The MX4 fly like crap and arnt as tough... Look at any poll on the worst tuning broadhead. You will see that the MX4 always takes the cake.

Now to the OP, your not the only person to have issues with a Rage. I've personally see the blades come completely off 2 different heads shot by 2 different people. There are also a ton of other guys that claim to have had the same issues plus blades comming open and also problems with lack if penetration.
 
#28 ·
i dont need to hear about briar thickets. all we have is thick woods here.

ive had nothing but excellent blood trails with the slick trick magnums. every deer i have shot with them have left huge blood trails that anyone could follow. even a few bad shots have still left good blood and led to a recovered animal.

just like you said earlier about the rages. slick trick is doing well, and your issues with them arent going to hurt their business. plenty of people use the simple fixed blade slick tricks with great success.

stick to what ever you like, and if thats rage so be it.

i myself, will stick with slick tricks until they fail me.
 
#29 ·
Well I ASSURE you my Hoyt is not out of tune: (I also own Matin,PSE, G5, Bowtech, TNT, Barnsdale,Darton, Monster, Oneida's and a couple one off customs) I Assure you if they didn't shoot like a laser I would not own them!

If people are going to start attacking my Tuning or shooting skill I invite you to show up at some of our events and out your money were your mouth is!!!

This thread is not a commercial for slick trick or Rage, just trying to see if others experience same problem!
 
#32 ·
i have shot around 25 deer with 2 inch 2 blade rage and have not lost a single one while shooting them, have shot two bears with them, i shot a mule deer this year in montana at 56 yards, went in behind a rib on entry side and right through the shoulder on exit side and was sticking out about 6 inches with both blades in tact. i think they are great but to each his own i guess
 
#34 ·
I shoot Muzzy's 100 grain 2 blades most the time but I also have some Rage's and I have had great luck with them so far! But Muzzys are easy to find anywhere and do the job