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What Im thinking about in a hull.

4.3K views 64 replies 18 participants last post by  Flints Finest  
#1 ·
Well around August Im going to take the boat apart and sell the hull and trailer for a new one. Talk to a few places and most wanted me to buy a complete or close to complete boat. Im not rich and dont want to have a note the rest of my life.

Im going with Diamondback. I talk to them and they will build what ever I want. Im wanting a 17X8 with a 5-6' deck. Walk arounds up to the crows nest (seats). Not sure about the whole light rail thing just yet. May just go Arkie style stripped down with just lights. Wanting deep sides kinda like a mini tuna can. Thinking 32-34" sides and I dont want the boat to taper down in the front. Caleb has me thinking about the whole rake or the angle of the front of the boat. I need to research that some.
This is the style hull Im thinking..........
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I like this but dont like how the front goes to a taper.......
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What you think?
 
#34 ·
I have a 20x8 sd with a stock weak as water vortec 350. With just me no extra weight it will run on wet grass, wet mud, slick surfaces with no water and little trouble as long as i dont stop and sand is no where in sight!! It has surprised me and many others. Deep water it planes out pretty easy and tops out around 30mph at 4200rpm im guessing i havent varified that. Im not very experienced in the airboat world either but i think that says alot.
 
#36 ·
I'm with Caleb but can understand the two sides. I LOVE my 20' boat. I've driven a few 18's and 16' boats and for bowfishing a 20' is perfect for me. Even with a stock 454 it would be my choice. To me they ride so much smoother and I can have mine on plane and cruising at 2100-2200 rpms an that's a blessing. The 16's I drove were up over 3k to stay on pad. But as far as dry ground mine will run dry with no issues but with a stock 454 there's no way it would budge on dry ground so I see where you have to weigh that as well
 
#43 ·
I can see what everyone is saying. Another thing to factor in is the width. Plus I'm not sure that the 12" is going to make that much of a difference between 17-18'. I know forsure I don't want a 20' boat so that's out of the question. I'm only going off what I know with Jon boats and the little I have been on Airboats. I know my boat is a beast but it has to do with it being so little. If I keep it a good size boat then I can stay with a stock 454 prolly get better performance with a wide and little longer boat than what I have with the 14' I have now.
 
#44 ·
Hollywood, i used to think the same way but after we have been using zeaks boat I'm starting to really like the big boats for fishing. we had something like 8 guys and 420 fish (just about all 8-10lb carp) the other night and were still fishing just as shallow at the end of the night as the beginning. and i truly believe with a running start his boat can make it ...well you know where. The only thing i haven't seen brought up is trailering the boat, I'm starting to think that the truck needs a bigger motor than the boat.
 
#55 ·
im confused, im no blow boat guy but why wont a 454 push a 20ftr? and i would think when comparing the same motor size and weight :the biggest boat would be the best because it has the better footprint vs. weight. just like a offroad rig the best H.P. to weight ratio is the best. so lets say a 16' weights 600lbs and a 20' weights 750lbs.lets say they are both 7'wide. that would make the 16= 112sqft (5.357psf)and the 20= 140sqft(5.357psf). the difference is when you add the motor 600lbs. 16' is now 1200lbs witch is now 10.71 lbs per sq ft. and the 20 shines at 1350 its 9.64lbs psf. but add the b4 mentioned 2000lb of fish and things change dramaticaly 16' is 28.57 and the 20 is at 23.92 lbs per sq ft. wich makes the 20ft 16.27% lighter per sq ft.
like i said b4 im no blow boat guy but i would imagine this formula for comparing weigth ratios would work. maybe im nuts.



 
#59 ·
Im not talkin bout in water in just talkin bout dry ground or real shollw sand or something. Hull design is the biggest thing. Prolly more than the motor as far as dry running. The spoon hulls don't have as much ground contact so it's easier to move which refers to wat I said in the last post about there's less footprint. Whether it b from hull design or size.... I'm just talking about physical size. I may be COMPLETLY WRONG, which isn't uncommon! But to me equally powered boats, 1 is 20ft the other 16ft with same style hulls, it just seems that the lil boat would do better either on dry or sticky a bottom right?? Or am I just missing something?
 
#61 ·
How do i put this...Like if u were to drag a boat across concrete I would think the smaller one would be easier to pull...but if u were dragging a boat across softer surface the one with better weight distribution would be easier to drag. Like bulldozer with skinny tracks sinks in soft stuff but the wide track models walk right over it...I don't know, I'm confused now...I'm going to bed...lol...
 
#62 ·
Haha need to! But I'll let it go an say I'm wrong. It's like joe dirts dad said bout posi trac rearend in a Plymouth" it just does".....just thought of something, I'm takin the boat down to mobile bay this weekend Caleb should bring his an we can have a showdown. Both r silver dollar "style" flat bottoms exact same motors I think the only difference is our exhausts. Same reductions diff props. He's got 20x8 I got 17.5x6.5(bottom)