[tomahawk]

Stark can never be confined...he's Iron Man!

Actually, the quantum confined stark effect is why he's Iron Man.. lmao

 

[rum3002576]

you all are to darn smart for me

 

[WBG444]

I swear they said crystal meth in that first post...

 

[carpkisser]

sooo... ho fast does the delorean have to go to travel into time mcfly ?????

 

[Bryant]

I swear they said crystal meth in that first post...

Haha :clap: The Crystal Meth will release some of the internal stresses generated when they originally formed. haha

 

[Istickem]

I just figured QCSE was just replacing SHIELD, I heard Samuel kept his patch thru the change though.

 

[cbowjones]

Not sure brighter is better in our world. I just got through demoing some of the rigid LED bars....let me tell you...these things are SWEET! They are just to damn bright!! They hit the water and just reflect off....WAY too much glare and won't penetrate to 12" of water.....what we need is LED lighting in the HPS color range...that would be the cats meow! Then we MIGHT could go brighter....

 

[Istickem]

I just put 2 arrays on my boat with a CCT of 3200, most arrays are around 6000.
They are out there, but not cheap.

 

[Old Smoker]

Not sure brighter is better in our world. I just got through demoing some of the rigid LED bars....let me tell you...these things are SWEET! They are just to damn bright!! They hit the water and just reflect off....WAY too much glare and won't penetrate to 12" of water.....what we need is LED lighting in the HPS color range...that would be the cats meow! Then we MIGHT could go brighter....

Before I bought my HPS I cruised the net for info. on lighting. HPS produce a color of light that is seen better by most folks eyes. No all folks mind you, just most. So I'm with you on this color range idea. But since leds don't generate color via hot gas like the HPS and MH, the colors may have to come a from colored lens. That's gonna cut down on lumens output ( I think). But my eyes like the yellowish HPS way better than anything else I've seen. To me the LEDs are looking good because we could loose the genny.

 

[CARPDIGGER]

Not sure brighter is better in our world. I just got through demoing some of the rigid LED bars....let me tell you...these things are SWEET! They are just to damn bright!! They hit the water and just reflect off....WAY too much glare and won't penetrate to 12" of water.....what we need is LED lighting in the HPS color range...that would be the cats meow! Then we MIGHT could go brighter....

Not sure why you have trouble with penetration, I have rigid ind. light rails all the way around my platform and they work great, now they do have a more direct beam vs a good wide flood pattern. but as far as being too bright, i have yet to see lights too bright. where they the "E" series? or dually?

 

[Taylor Farrar]

Shoot I made muh LED's 100% brighter by adding a continuim transfunctioner right under dah wobbulator actuatortrode..

 

[Rob Law]

I figured that would work but they wouldn't listen!

Reminds me of this.....

 

[riverocket]

Not sure brighter is better in our world. I just got through demoing some of the rigid LED bars....let me tell you...these things are SWEET! They are just to damn bright!! They hit the water and just reflect off....WAY too much glare and won't penetrate to 12" of water.....what we need is LED lighting in the HPS color range...that would be the cats meow! Then we MIGHT could go brighter....

They make one that is close in color to HPS. Its called warm white. Not sure what kind out put they come in, but it is in the yellowish wavelength. Remmember too, a 400w HPS is putting out like 27k lumens each and the 50w leds are something like 4k to 6k. lumens. ( I think those numbers are in the ball park). Also, according to Costa Delmar human eyes are more sensitive to the yellow spectrum.

 

[Istickem]

CCT chart

 

[cbowjones]

Not sure why you have trouble with penetration, I have rigid ind. light rails all the way around my platform and they work great, now they do have a more direct beam vs a good wide flood pattern. but as far as being too bright, i have yet to see lights too bright. where they the "E" series? or dually?

Im not sure what the deal was....they were the 10" E series flood lights....had 8 of them on the front. I wanted these lights to work so badly, but was sadly disappointed in them! Not sure what the deal was....you could see great in the first 1-4 inches....after that, the penetration drastically declined!

 

[cbowjones]

They make one that is close in color to HPS. Its called warm white. Not sure what kind out put they come in, but it is in the yellowish wavelength. Remmember too, a 400w HPS is putting out like 27k lumens each and the 50w leds are something like 4k to 6k. lumens. ( I think those numbers are in the ball park). Also, according to Costa Delmar human eyes are more sensitive to the yellow spectrum.

I know rigid makes an "amber" LED light...we are trying to get one in right now to demo....it is very close to HPS by the pics....crossing our fingers this will penetrate the way we are wanting!

 

[eodwest]

Haha, made me think about guidance sytems. This is a real explanation;

The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.

In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.

The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.

 

[GarGuys]

Here is what I got from that post........ Chinese dont know how to spell YANG! Xiang, Ziang, Zhang, Wang, and Yang.

 

[Istickem]

400w HPS is rated at around 45,000 lumens, but this is a good read about the differences.http://www.ecofitlighting.com/hid-vs-led.html

The warm white LEDs from China are around a MH color temp.
And I cant see the rigid light bars being terribly effective with a 10 or 20 degree beam and less than 500 LUX, thats cutting off a huge % of the LEDs direct light.

 

[cbowjones]

After seeing what I saw with these LED lights, they are no where near the MH and HPS lights. Yes, they are cool because you don't need a generator, but as far as penetration and light throw...there is ZERO comparison!! LEDs are def a thing to look forward to, but as of right now are not up to par. Now having said that, you guys who fish clear water, I think they will do perfect, but for the guys wanting to get out and shoot tournaments and fish all kinds of different water, hold on to your HID lights! I will be demoing the 50w LED that everyone is using in the upcoming weeks and will give a review on them at that time.