[Joe Nichols]

have 2 worlds each year. North n south. It would get more north guys involved.

I like this idea also. Im wanting Zeak to put a shoot on up on Saginaw bay. Man that place has some gar and big commons!!

 

[FOWL]

Im all for state shoots as qualifiers for a big event.

 

[Gargod]

I think the BAA should sanction every State Youth Shoot...for free.

The BAA would supply each state rep with banners,membership forms,and BAA and it's state rep, be responsible for advertising the tournament via internet,or print advertising.

Make it mandatory for the state reps to be in attendance having a membership drive table or booth to collect membership $$$ for the BAA.(reason for no sanction fee)

Last but not least,have a Youth BAA Membership fee.Maybe 1/2 price...so $10.00 until they're 17 or sffer some type of "package" deal with the entry fee which would include their new BAA Membership.

 

[FOWL]

hey Jeff, as long as I can remember all youth shoots and seminars are sanctioned for free. As far as state reps, we have some good ones but not enough to cover all the states.

 

[Gargod]

hey Jeff, as long as I can remember all youth shoots and seminars are sanctioned for free. As far as state reps, we have some good ones but not enough to cover all the states.

I guess what I meant Jason,is to have the BAA play a bigger role in the Youth State Shoots as far as exposure...banners flying,state reps with BAA shirts on,talking up the BAA,selling BAA memberships...engraining the BAA into the minds of the younguns so they will want to be future BAA members.

"build it and they will come" so to speak.lol

 

[FOWL]

gotcha...i agree

 

[River Cat]

Establishing a once a year BAA State Championship shoot that is coordinated by the state reps in each of their respective states. And possibly organizing a BAA US championship tournament at the end of the year that the winners from each state get a bid to participate in. Could possibly be held in conjuction with the Worlds to simplify things.
Worth talking about but I think at least a BAA State shoot for each state would be pretty cool!

One team from each state ain't good. Not enough teams from all states. Maybe top 3 placing teams from each state. Also there's teams that travel to different states and shoot the state shoots. What happens if a team wins two different states shoots. That will knock one state out from having representative team in the big shoot.

Ok if a original teammate cannot make the big shoot......can alternate partners shoot in place of the others?

 

[Joe Nichols]

I think two World shoots would be great. One that you would have to shoot so many State BAA sanctioned shoots to qualify for one of them and the other is the World Shoot that the BAA puts on every year anyways. The one would get more BAA shoots around. Example If Ky, In, Tn, Al, Puts on A state BAA shoot then I could shoot all four of them being close states to qualify for the qualifing World Shoot.

This would prompt more state shoots. There is some kind of shoot every weekend all over but it would give teams a goal and a chance to pick the shoots they want at the beginning of the year.

We should face it that the sport has grown and the BAA should take it to the next level. BAA sanctions shoots and supports bowfishing but has one Big shoot. Im not saying have this done for this year but we could work the details from now till next year and have an awesome tournament year that would really get the BAA out there.

 

[mike]

Starting a second "Big" BAA event each year to target the Asian carp. The baa is missing a huge opportunity to cash in on a tremendous amount of good publicity by not having an event targeting these fish.

I'll go into more details regarding my thoughts when I get home.

Right now there is tons of money and news coverage being dumped into the asian carp saga going on in states from KY north. The threat to the great lakes and it's 7 billion dollar fishery is huge and gets all kinds of news coverage as well as many groups willing to throw money at any group willing to help prevent these fish from getting to the great lakes.
I watched a few minute clip on fox news about a ******* fishin tournament where they were using dip nets to scope silvers out of the air that jumped to close to there boats. Probably over a million viewers saw that and here a bunch of guys drinking holding nets are praised as conservationist( really? )
Then I saw a natgeo episode on the same tournament, I can only imagine how many viewers watched that.

My point is here is a tournament with people visibly drinking, holding dip net, taking a fraction of what we as bowfishermen could take in a single night and there being praised as conservationist. Granted they are because they organized and started an event to help control these fishes numbers.

Why aren't we doing this? Why isn't the BAA getting this coverage? I'll bet if we got those same number of views these guys got, our numbers would increase. If nothing more than people joining the BAA to support the group of "Conservationist" trying to control this invasive species.

I love the World Championship shoot(even though I don't attend many) it's great, but it does very little if nothing to help promote the BAA as a conservationist type organization. Yes it helps remove invasive species and I know that, but not nearly as much as a tournament specifially targeting the Asian carp could do. Right now at this moment in time these fish are a serious threat to this country's native fisheries and I personally feel the BAA is missing the boat BIGTIME, by not being all over this issue.

Imaginee the good pr that could come from a single tournament that removed 40,000+lbs of these fish. It would go a looooooong way to portray bowfishing as a conservationist sport, instead of just a blood sport.

I think The BAA really needs to seriously look at holding a second large event specifically targeting these fish, and I think it should be a total weight event. This is the one case where we need dumpster pics :tu:

 

[Joe Nichols]

I agree with you on that Mike. It would be very easy around this area. The Bigheads seem to be the fish to shoot around here. Look how many boats the AMS Big 30 had and most of those boats was from this area. This years will be as big if not bigger.

 

[mike]

I agree with you on that Mike. It would be very easy around this area. The Bigheads seem to be the fish to shoot around here. Look how many boats the AMS Big 30 had and most of those boats was from this area. This years will be as big if not bigger.

I'm willing to make the trip up Joe to help work the event, and I'm sure I can drag some others along with me. :tu: Right now the asian is the biggest threat to our fisheries and a "BAA" event would produce a lot of great PR for the organization.

 

[River Cat]

I like the idea Joe posted about shooting "X" number of state shoots to qualify for the big shoot. But what about formats and qualifying. Not all state shoots would be numbers or big 20.

 

[mike]

I like the idea Joe posted about shooting "X" number of state shoots to qualify for the big shoot. But what about formats and qualifying. Not all state shoots would be numbers or big 20.

There is a lot more to this than you realize. I went through months of planning when I did the series and if you rely only on qualifying to get team to the big shoot, the numbers at the big shoot would be low.

say ga ( just for ex ) the top 3 teams at the state shoot arent planning on attending the worlds shoot? There is three teams that won't make it from ga. Or say they plan on attending but something comes up, and they don't go, the big shoots numbers suffers.

As far as the whether its numbers or big 20 wouldn't matter as far as the qualifiers are concerned because they are just qualifiers to get the the worlds shoot and everyone at the qualifier would be shooting the same division

But if the qualifier as a split division? what do you do then? qualify the top six teams to go?

 

[Joe Nichols]

I like the idea Joe posted about shooting "X" number of state shoots to qualify for the big shoot. But what about formats and qualifying. Not all state shoots would be numbers or big 20.

Those would be details to work out. I assumed most state shoots are both numbers and big 10-20. Maybe the ones that are in the running would have to be both formats. Like I said it would have to be worked out.

 

[Joe Nichols]

Plus it would help the more state shoots there are the better.

 

[crafty]

Right now there is tons of money and news coverage being dumped into the asian carp saga going on in states from KY north. The threat to the great lakes and it's 7 billion dollar fishery is huge and gets all kinds of news coverage as well as many groups willing to throw money at any group willing to help prevent these fish from getting to the great lakes.
I watched a few minute clip on fox news about a ******* fishin tournament where they were using dip nets to scope silvers out of the air that jumped to close to there boats. Probably over a million viewers saw that and here a bunch of guys drinking holding nets are praised as conservationist( really? )
Then I saw a natgeo episode on the same tournament, I can only imagine how many viewers watched that.

My point is here is a tournament with people visibly drinking, holding dip net, taking a fraction of what we as bowfishermen could take in a single night and there being praised as conservationist. Granted they are because they organized and started an event to help control these fishes numbers.

Why aren't we doing this? Why isn't the BAA getting this coverage? I'll bet if we got those same number of views these guys got, our numbers would increase. If nothing more than people joining the BAA to support the group of "Conservationist" trying to control this invasive species.

I love the World Championship shoot(even though I don't attend many) it's great, but it does very little if nothing to help promote the BAA as a conservationist type organization. Yes it helps remove invasive species and I know that, but not nearly as much as a tournament specifially targeting the Asian carp could do. Right now at this moment in time these fish are a serious threat to this country's native fisheries and I personally feel the BAA is missing the boat BIGTIME, by not being all over this issue.

Imaginee the good pr that could come from a single tournament that removed 40,000+lbs of these fish. It would go a looooooong way to portray bowfishing as a conservationist sport, instead of just a blood sport.

I think The BAA really needs to seriously look at holding a second large event specifically targeting these fish, and I think it should be a total weight event. This is the one case where we need dumpster pics :tu:

All very good points mike..

 

[crafty]

I like this idea also. Im wanting Zeak to put a shoot on up on Saginaw bay. Man that place has some gar and big commons!!

Definitely a great spot and there are a hand full of tourneys in the bay already. The GLBC as well as the BAM events. Im sure the BAM guys would be more than happy to work with the BAA in having a joint effort to put on another big bay shoot to help them and the BAA. With the numbers and the clear water, the bay an incredible fishery as you know. A plus is, there isnt a whole lot of spots on the bay where anyone has to worry about having issues such as airboats and lights with residents.

 

[FOWL]

The best idea I have seen in a while! This needs to be done and 2012 would be a great year to get it started. Where would be the spot?

 

[crafty]

Which idea are you talking about FOWL?

 

[FOWL]

Talking about the total weight asian feast!