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Darin Opel was hoping for a gar last Sunday (May 4, 2008) while he was bowfishing from shore in a backwater above the Melvin Price Lock and Dam 26.

Instead the bowfisher from Worden wound up with a monster. Opel shot a bighead carp weighing 92 pounds, 8 ounces during his outing on the Illinois side of the Mississippi River.

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111# Caught on LOZ a few miles down stream from Truman Dam.
 
It was snagged so I'm not sure. But I googled world record and that is what it said. 111 lbs and by the time it made it to certified scales it was 106. Cabelas bought it on the spot. It was caught 2-3 years ago.
 
Wow, thats some good info Carptracker! I appreciate it. Is there a good place other than Wiki that I can get that kind of info on the 2 species? What is the biggest that the 2 species get to?
Here are the best places to go for all you want to know about bighead and silver carps

http://afsbooks.org/specialpubs/51033C
http://afsbooks.org/54074P

But you can get a lot of information here, for free: http://www.fws.gov/contaminants/OtherDocuments/ACBSRAFinalReport2005.pdf
 
I have heard though that fish that are snagged cannot claim a record but I don't know the fact behind that.
Missouri has state records for "other methods" which includes snagging and bowfishing. So it counts for that. As far as I know, there is no group that maintains official or unofficial records of USA or North American fish, so there is not anything to qualify for there. IGFA won't accept snagged fish, so it is not eligable for a world record. There was one bighead carp over 150 pounds caught in Europe two years ago, and at least one of over 135 pounds in Brazil since then, but neither of these were submitted for a world record, and probably would not have been approved due to gear type and how the fish were handled. If you want an IGFA record, you have to go prepared to get it. Both of those big fish were eaten by people hungrier than you and me and less concerned about holding any kind of record than they are in a good meal.

BAA keeps its own records, of course, and I think Darrin Opel's 92.5 pound fish is still the bowfishing record. Unfortunately, it is not the Illinois record, because it was caught before Illinois records on bighead carp began. You'd think they would want to own this record, but have not. Tennessee has a state record bighead carp of a couple ounces bigger than Darrin's, according to the records caught "by hand". Crazy. I don't know how you catch a large bighead by hand unless it is dead or dying.

The largest silver carp I know of in the USA was 74 pounds, caught by a commercial fisher, and it is hanging on a wall in Spirit Lake, IA. There are records of silver carp approaching a hundred pounds in Asia, again, caught by commercial fishers. The largest silver carp I have held in my hands was only 24 pounds, and I have been fishing them hard for ten years. Fish larger than 20 pounds are uncommon, although every time someone gets hit in the head by one they report it was a twenty pounder. People usually overestimate the weight of silver carp. That said, I'm sure there are some that frequent this board that have taken larger fish than I have. My gear is not designed to take the really large ones, and I have seen bigger fish get away.
 
Also - remember that you can NOT take these fish over the state line alive. If you catch a big one and Cabelas or Bass Pro or whoever wants the fish, if you carry it over the state line alive it is a FEDERAL OFFENSE. Being a high visibility federal offense, the chances of being prosecuted are nearly 100%. You can lose big money or go to jail. Don't do it.

Incidentally, if you take bighead carp on one side of the Mississippi River and transport them to the other side alive, you are breaking the law. I doubt you would be prosecuted unless you did something else to make offense. But I don't make those calls and in this day of heightened sensitivity I would just be sure and take the priest to any bighead or silver or black carp that I shot on the Mississippi River. They die easy and fast when you hit that soft spot on the noggin.
 
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Missouri has state records for "other methods" which includes snagging and bowfishing. So it counts for that. As far as I know, there is no group that maintains official or unofficial records of USA or North American fish, so there is not anything to qualify for there. IGFA won't accept snagged fish, so it is not eligable for a world record. There was one bighead carp over 150 pounds caught in Europe two years ago, and at least one of over 135 pounds in Brazil since then, but neither of these were submitted for a world record, and probably would not have been approved due to gear type and how the fish were handled. If you want an IGFA record, you have to go prepared to get it. Both of those big fish were eaten by people hungrier than you and me and less concerned about holding any kind of record than they are in a good meal.

BAA keeps its own records, of course, and I think Darrin Opel's 92.5 pound fish is still the bowfishing record. Unfortunately, it is not the Illinois record, because it was caught before Illinois records on bighead carp began. You'd think they would want to own this record, but have not. Tennessee has a state record bighead carp of a couple ounces bigger than Darrin's, according to the records caught "by hand". Crazy. I don't know how you catch a large bighead by hand unless it is dead or dying.

The largest silver carp I know of in the USA was 74 pounds, caught by a commercial fisher, and it is hanging on a wall in Spirit Lake, IA. There are records of silver carp approaching a hundred pounds in Asia, again, caught by commercial fishers. The largest silver carp I have held in my hands was only 24 pounds, and I have been fishing them hard for ten years. Fish larger than 20 pounds are uncommon, although every time someone gets hit in the head by one they report it was a twenty pounder. People usually overestimate the weight of silver carp. That said, I'm sure there are some that frequent this board that have taken larger fish than I have. My gear is not designed to take the really large ones, and I have seen bigger fish get away.

Do you have an educated guess on the weight of the one I pictured at the start of the thread?
 
Do you have an educated guess on the weight of the one I pictured at the start of the thread?
Pictures like that are pretty hard to guess because I can't tell how far in front of you the fish is, or how big you are. A big person like me holding a fish makes the fish look a lot smaller. If you had a length on the fish, I could calculate the weight, based on the condition factor of the fish. I can make a pretty good guess on condition factor - that one will have a Fulton's condition factor of about an even 1.0. From that I could calculate weight if I knew how long the fish was.
 
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Pictures like that are pretty hard to guess because I can't tell how far in front of you the fish is, or how big you are. A big person like me holding a fish makes the fish look a lot smaller. If you had a length on the fish, I could calculate the weight, based on the condition factor of the fish. I can make a pretty good guess on condition factor - that one will have a Fulton's condition factor of about an even 1.0. From that I could calculate weight if I knew how long the fish was.
I'll see if I can get you the length. I'm 5'9" about 190lbs and the fish isnt in front of me very far because I couldnt hold it out there very far. Also, I was hoping you could weigh in on another thread titles "species?" I would appreciate your input as you seem to be pretty knowledgeable on fish. Thanks!
 
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