[Gbollom]

Well I'd say that's happening now! I sure wouldn't pay that for one, and it sounds like hardly anyone else will either. They're great bows but not worth that kinda money new IMO

Well everyone pissed and moaned last time the price went up but I'm sure they kept selling bows like crazy. I think until Joes bow is ready for sale or if/when the angler becomes readily available(it's my understanding that there is still a decent wait time on them) that people will continue to purchase them. If not the price will either come down or they will no longer make money on them.

 

[Aquatic Undertaker]

Well we can ***** and moan all we want but if people keep buying them, they'll keep making money....that's for sure. I'm ready for Joe's bows to come out. Maybe that will help give Oneida a hint because all machined bows are now selling for the same price and less than them. I'm not knocking Oneida at all (I shoot one), but it's getting out of hand.

 

[KY Bighead]

Wow.. that's all I got!

 

[Joe Nichols]

This is my take on this..........I have been Oneida Pro-Staff for the past three years. I have seen the changes in staff at the factory. I dont know why they changed the prices like they have. Was told they are not making money. I love my Ospreys but.......one thing I have seen over the years and this web site helps is........some guys are into some things more than others. I mean Bowfishing is my thing period! I dont spend money on uper class shotguns or rifles, dont go on big hunts, dont spend all winter going all over hunting. So for me when Ospreys was $475, $550, $650......it was worth it to me. Even then a bunch of guys b!tched about the price. Kinda like I do about Benelli shotguns but my 870 still kills the sh!t like my buds guns do.

I look at it this way. How can I support them when there are no reason to raise the price? I mean what do I tell a guy that says "Why did the price go up and no changes?" or "Its the same bow that they started with but plastic end caps, no mods, more for a longer draw?" I cant!! I cant PROMOTE the bow when its done this way. I sold a bunch of bows for Oneida and can say I know for a fact I made them Money. I cant support that even if they was giving me free bows. Im sure some would but most have no idea what PRO in Pro staff means.

There are better things coming and I know there will be more than one. Just like Joes bows they are PROTO bows at the moment and I cant say its the best thing to sliced bread cause it has not been proven. With some of us working and helping Joe on his bow it will become a great bow in time. If a bow is built to the likes of a bowfisherman it will sell as a bowfishing bow.

I hope Oneida gets it straight. I want them around and I still love and own Many Oneidas.

 

[Shootem Down]

First of all, do you not practice with your hunting bow? Or do you just knock the dust off it a week before season, shoot it one time and say "I can keep it in a pie plate at 20 so I'm good"
As for me, I practice year round with my hunting bow, typically a few hundred shots during the week and hundred or so more on weekends. I also hunt deer and antelope in the fall, turkey in the spring and hogs year round with it. A hunting bow is a way more precise bow than what a bowfishing bow needs to be. With a good tuned hunting bow I need to be able to hold groups of about 4"-5" inches at 50-60 yards (which means lots of practice). With a good setup up bowfishing bow I need to hit that same group at 10-20 feet.
I would say I shoot about as many arrows with my bowfishing bow as I do my hunting bow during the year. But you don't need your bowfishing bow to be able to do anywhere near what a hunting now can. So why should it cost as much or why in the world would you spend as much?

Well First off give you a cookie for shooting your bow a million times a week and still shooting 5 inch groops 50-60 yards and no i do not just pull my bow out and shoot it once I start shooting my bow a few weeks befor deer season and shoot it every day 40 to 50 times a day till the season starts so im sorry that i do not make your standards on my deer hunting bow all i was saying is that if you are going to talk chit about a oneida dont buy one find you another bow and go on about you little way stop talking chit about some one tring to make it big if you want to wine about somthing call wallmart and tell them to lower the price in there corn and beans and stuff like that but i bet you wont get on there there web sight and say a nothing to them

 

[TXBA]

I am a true believer in "you get what you pay for" in most cases, but when most all other bowfishing bows are nearly half the price or less, there seems to be an issue IMO. I understand that they aren't necessarily lever bows, but dayum....especially for cast risers and a lot of plastic parts. Most bowfishermen aren't doing it for a living ya know.

....u can shoot a lesser priced bow just as long as an oneida. buddy has a hydrostrike and he shoots it as often as any bow ive ever owned in fact probably all of them put together

 

[AllOut]

Well First off give you a cookie for shooting your bow a million times a week and still shooting 5 inch groops 50-60 yards and no i do not just pull my bow out and shoot it once I start shooting my bow a few weeks befor deer season and shoot it every day 40 to 50 times a day till the season starts so im sorry that i do not make your standards on my deer hunting bow all i was saying is that if you are going to talk chit about a oneida dont buy one find you another bow and go on about you little way stop talking chit about some one tring to make it big if you want to wine about somthing call wallmart and tell them to lower the price in there corn and beans and stuff like that but i bet you wont get on there there web sight and say a nothing to them

I think you took my post the wrong way... I wasn't trying to pat myself on the back by any means. Nor was I trying to put down your shooting habits. My "knock the dust off it" comment wasn't really directed to you personally.
It was just a rebuddle to the idea that everyone shoots their bowfishing bow more than a hunting bow.
I do agree with you, if you think it's over prices don't buy it. Which is why I won't buy a new osprey.

 

[Gargod]

I think you took my post the wrong way... I wasn't trying to pat myself on the back by any means. Nor was I trying to put down your shooting habits. My "knock the dust off it" comment wasn't really directed to you personally.
It was just a rebuddle to the idea that everyone shoots their bowfishing bow more than a hunting bow.
I do agree with you, if you think it's over prices don't buy it. Which is why I won't buy a new osprey.

Rebuttal I have nothing to add to this thread...

 

[$FrMacastan$]

I think you took my post the wrong way... I wasn't trying to pat myself on the back by any means. Nor was I trying to put down your shooting habits. My "knock the dust off it" comment wasn't really directed to you personally.
It was just a rebuddle to the idea that everyone shoots their bowfishing bow more than a hunting bow.
I do agree with you, if you think it's over prices don't buy it. Which is why I won't buy a new osprey.

either 1 or 2 things here if you shoot your hunting bow as much as you do your bowfishin bow.

1.you dont bowfish very much

2.you dont bowfish very much

 

[clark3]

Here's my outlook, I have close to a grand in my osprey, and if I had to I'd pay more than that. I don't think it's right that they keep going up but that's simple supply/demand and at least for the mean time the demand will be there 600,700,800,900 and they will still sell bows because they're still worth that to the guys that have shot them.

Now when joes bow is released that all might change. But don't think that Joe is gonna scrape the bottom of the barrell to sell bows and they're going to be dirt cheap. If he can get them in the 700$ that's great if they're more hell still sell them bc their value to the customer exceeds the cost. I can't wait to get my hands on joes bow and the last thing I'm worried about is the price.

Those of you that say I'm stupid for spending that much on a bowfishing now have either never shot one very much (which is about 99% of you that say that) or can't afford one (which I completely understand). I laugh when I see "my 40$ pawn shop bow or 200$ pse shoots the same as your osprey" well no, no it doesn't I'm sorry to bust your bubble but it's nowhere close. I can shoot fish with a 40$ pawnshop bow, but I can afford to shoot an osprey and it's money we'll spent bc I love it. I'm sure I'll feel the same way about joes bow as well. I also have over
1200$ in my Mathews and I shoot it maybe 20 times a year these days. So putting that in a bow I shoot hundreds of times per night is a no brainier to me

 

[Shootem Down]

Yep thats just how I feel

 

[Joe Nichols]

I kinda agree with you Clark but some of us have to draw the line at some time. Heck I wish I had the Ospreys I had in the last two years. I needed cash and would sell one. Im making good money now but still dont see the higher price. Plus if most was aware of how much money was in those bows most would be pi$$ed. Trust me ask Mike. Im no business man by no means but think about this? Its not hard to see what bows at Oneida do you think was the seller? They dont sell the BE anymore. All the high dollar wheeled bows pretty much cover the lever limb. Now for the versatility of a lever bow it is the bow for bowfishing which is a much smaller market than a hunting. Heck if some of the wheeled bow guys would listen to people that bowfish as a WHOLE then they could build an awesome bow. This is the new age! Not every guy or girl wants a bow with no let-off, a draw length of 0-31 inches or need a press to put it back together, or have 20' of BCY to chafe or cut. (This last comment wasnt towards any bow or person) They dont listen though. They build a bow off of a womens bow or kids bow and put some water flauge paint on it and call it the next best thing.

 

[AllOut]

either 1 or 2 things here if you shoot your hunting bow as much as you do your bowfishin bow.

1.you dont bowfish very much

2.you dont bowfish very much

Not exactly
I work evenings so I have every day before work to go out in the yard to shoot a few arrows. Which I typically do...
Now we typically bowfish at least every other weekend in the summer and sometimes every weekend. If I go once a week and shoot 100 times in one night it's not to hard to match that if I shoot 25 a day wity my hunting bow a few days a week. Not to mention in the fall I shoot a lot more with my hunting bows. So on average I probably shoot about the same with each every year and still get plenty of bowfishing in.

 

[clark3]

Not exactly
I work evenings so I have every day before work to go out in the yard to shoot a few arrows. Which I typically do...
Now we typically bowfish at least every other weekend in the summer and sometimes every weekend. If I go once a week and shoot 100 times in one night it's not to hard to match that if I shoot 25 a day wity my hunting bow a few days a week. Not to mention in the fall I shoot a lot more with my hunting bows. So on average I probably shoot about the same with each every year and still get plenty of bowfishing in.

But have you ever shot an osprey?

 

[wheelie]

I do have a couple thousand dollar bows. A target bow and my hunting bow but they don't bump around in a boat, lay in water, muddy banks, cement, ect. Bowfishing bows take alot more abuse than any other type of bow. Besides we only have a 3 month bowfishing season. Would even have to think about spending 3 or 4 hundred on a fishing bow. I am happy with my used $150 dollar 50lbs short recurve. If it ever goes I have a spare till I find a new one for the right price.

 

[Jrob]

I just think that if the price was right Oneida would sell a crap ton of bows and completely own the market! That is what is so frustrating. Oneida would be the #1 bowfishing bow in sales without question. Problem is they raise prices every year lately, produce the same bow, and there is just more options becoming available. Im only ticked because I know what great bows they are and I do feel the are pricing them wrong. I mean for $900 you can get an all carbon Hoyt matrix......This is just venting for me. I love my Oneida, its just a hard sell for the average Bowfisher....

 

[Hoythntr96]

either 1 or 2 things here if you shoot your hunting bow as much as you do your bowfishin bow.

1.you dont bowfish very much

2.you dont bowfish very much

In the summer i bowfish every few days. all year round i shoot my hunting bow every day. at least a dozen arrows... so i shoot both about the same. depends on who you are and what you do as to how much your budget is on a bow... personally i think the ospreys price is pretty rediculous. its a sweet azz bow but cast riser and now More plastic and an even higher price????? Most company's IMPROVE their bow with a new years model or with a raised price. guess Oneida just doesnt get that since the osprey hasnt changed lol. cant wait for Joe's bow to come out. i want one!

 

[wheelie]

I just think that if the price was right Oneida would sell a crap ton of bows and completely own the market! That is what is so frustrating. Oneida would be the #1 bowfishing bow in sales without question. Problem is they raise prices every year lately, produce the same bow, and there is just more options becoming available. Im only ticked because I know what great bows they are and I do feel the are pricing them wrong. I mean for $900 you can get an all carbon Hoyt matrix......This is just venting for me. I love my Oneida, its just a hard sell for the average Bowfisher....

We don't know the company bussines we can only guess. With the world wide economy everyone is just struggling to survive right now. All bills and everything in this world is going up in price so they have to do what it takes to survive in this economy. I am sure if they could afford to sell them for $500. they would. Why doubt them as they know there bussiness and have been around a long time. This is my opinion only as a bussiness owner myself. Who wants to take over the world if you end up broke from it.

 

[Hoythntr96]

We don't know the company bussines we can only guess. With the world wide economy everyone is just struggling to survive right now. All bills and everything in this world is going up in price so they have to do what it takes to survive in this economy. I am sure if they could afford to sell them for $500. they would. Why doubt them as they know there bussiness and have been around a long time. This is my opinion only as a bussiness owner myself. Who wants to take over the world if you end up broke from it.

It makes some sense to why they raised the price if they are in need for more money, but i think if the price is going to stay at $700+ they should provide those few improvements like all metal parts to really make the bow close to being worth that price. Its definitly a proven bow but i think a few small improvements would go a long way in sales...

 

[tailandscalesc]

I have shot an osprey. I do shoot an osprey. And no it's not worth $900. If anyone will give me $800 I'll sell it right now. But they do have the right to set there price and the customer has the right to buy or not. So the decision is yours.