as we were talking about gator gar fingerlings last wk.it occured to me there could be a potential problem in our future. if its a few years away thats good gives a little time to do something. some might say why did you bring this up wait until its here then do something but thats sticking your head in the sand . to harvest alligator, some places elk,moose,mountain sheep,bear and other animals you have to get permits then most of the time its luck of the draw. i would hate to see that for gator gar. [potential solution] don,t have a clue as to how many serious and part time bow fisherman there are but if its 10,000 plus thats good would give a strong voice this would need to be promoted and worked through bowfishing association of america. if 10,000 plus people gave 20 dollars a year for a couple of years towards a gator gar program would have some good results i would hope. we have one fish hatchery in tupelo,miss. thats working with gator gar we need at least a couple more doing this. then all the river basins from the west to the eastern part of usa could be restocked all the private lakes that wished to could do so. if there were public lakes that their lake association said we don,t want nothing to do with this that would be fine that is the way this should be don,t want anybody to feel like its being forced on them. this would create a number of jobs from building of facalities to people to carry out the programs there could be money from a lot of other sources that would probably be available also. its kind of like when you plant a tree it done for the next group. the next generation of bowfishers just might keep this going if we could get it up and running.
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What is a GG native range in the US?
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justin thats ok when we get over to visit my daughter we will call you i would like to see the hatchery an d see how they do gar i,m sure its more involved than we can imagine.
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the native range as i understand is southern and eastern usa for the most part but as how far north has to do with temperature the west could also have a range.
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just looked up the northern most range meredosia,ill. the farthest north one recorded caught there but covers all of state of missouri and west most of kansas then curves down on out west.
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At the Right time of year, you'll get tired of looking at 4-5 footers. I don't see many in the summer though...
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I think it has more to do with the body water not the time of year.... great white hunter has been killing them in a starving river system so the big gador gar are having to eat baby Gator gar that's what I'm thinking...
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i,m not a biologist by any strech of my imagination but i think a river that only has mostly gar would have some problem with polution gar can live in some pretty harsh conditions as well as grinnel ive seen some drainage ditches that contain only gar for most part. also low oxygen content.
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They have been re-introduced in West TN rivers. I know they have been somewhat successful in the Hatchie River. I work with a biologist that is in on the program. He told me, cannibalism is the number one concern on raising young aligator gar in confined or hatchery type set-ups. He told me they would eat any and everything that did'nt get out of their way. He said they will be 2" long and try to eat each other...
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Sounds good too me man...I've never been their myself either..passed it no telling how many times an have never stopped to check it out..
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now i know why alligator is first part of their name. important to keep them full or scattered and stocking rate would be important but would give bowfishers a good job.
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The way they Rade gar in general is heavily vegatated ponds like 1-2 acre 10 foot deep ponds with lots of plants and food then sort them by size
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Brady is right about where Great white is hunting. The lower food chain is destroyed from the record drought two years ago and it will take a while to catch back up.
On the Trinity, there are so many 4-5ft gator gar that it really makes rod and reel fishing hard. You catch one before a monster can find the bait. Took ne a while to figure that one out but I am catching gar over 7ft every trip now.
On the Trinity, there are so many 4-5ft gator gar that it really makes rod and reel fishing hard. You catch one before a monster can find the bait. Took ne a while to figure that one out but I am catching gar over 7ft every trip now.
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Brady don't be jealous that you don't know where I'm fishing ;-)....but you just might be right. I've heard of some folks catching 7' gg on crawfish and minnows on the water I hunt which to me doesn't seem like proper food for a gg. And all the ones I kill are skinny and I hardly see baitfish or any type of gamefish so I believe they are starved for whatever reason. But l soon solve the problem of the big fish eating the little. Soon they all be dead or at least have some extra holes.
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how do you keep the smaller ones away from bait use a bigger chunk,thats interesting.
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Seems like you need to stock buffalo not gg
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There's record of them being as far north as Boonville on the MO river.
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There's been 2 over 100 lbs killed in the last 15 yrs in diversion channel. They had to come out of the Mississippi. I've never even seen a small one but it isn't for lack of trying. They were plentiful at one time here in the drainage ditches & the Mississippi , I don't know what caused the decline. I do live in a swamp that has been drained, probably got something to do with it.
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MDC is stocking them down in your neck of the woods Tim. . . http://www.dailystatesman.com/story/1988094.html
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that was an interesting read want to hear more articles like that thanks for posting that.
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