[bch1082]

I use a muzzy on mine with a shoot thru rod with safety slides. I keep the slide reeled up to the end of the rod. Wen I do forget to push the button the arrow falls off the string have not lost an arrow yet. "Knock on wood". My 11yr old daughter uses a ti20 only problem is the foot broke. And I have her doin the same thing keeping the slide at the end the rod and she has done great doin it that way. But I have watched her and she is constantly pushing the button.

 

[JDLEE1105]

Muzzy, f and d rod, and monkey wire

 

[Skin and scales]

A little off topic but why would u even use slides with a spinner I don't understand the pros of it unless u have some kind of rest u think lines gonna tangle on

 

[KMckie786]

A little off topic but why would u even use slides with a spinner I don't understand the pros of it unless u have some kind of rest u think lines gonna tangle on

I tried tying to the back with my spinner, didnt notice a huge difference in arrow flight. My biggest gripe (and this is probably totally personal preference) was it was more aggrivating for me to reload my arrow. I was getting the line tangled in various places around the rest while trying to re nock the arrow. I use the ring slides and for me I prefer them over tying to the back and the plastic slides. Only downside to rings Ive seen is how it chews up the back of the arrow over time.

 

[kuger]

I found one 888 in my boat(I guess only two made it in the water)brand spankin new,shot ONE time,I will sell it to you Zebco lovers....$30!!!

 

[glassbow201]

Don't need one, never had one break other than replacing a spinnerhead. $30 is full retail with 90 day return to the store if it breaks. So you would have to do $15 shipped to someone that needs one and is willing to buy used.

 

[kuger]

Don't need one, never had one break other than replacing a spinnerhead. $30 is full retail with 90 day return to the store if it breaks. So you would have to do $15 shipped to someone that needs one and is willing to buy used.

Truth is selling one even un-shot and brand new would be ripping somebody off,so I in truth wouldnt sell this POS,they are and have been JUNK,since they started making em in China.The old Tan and brown ones in the 80's were a good reel.I have a very hard time beleiving anybody that claims never having major problems with them....I will say again ZEBCO"S are all JUNK,Garbage

 

[glassbow201]

Tell the story of how someone broke three in one night again. So the guys like me that still use a reel from 5 years back can laugh some more.

 

[KY Bighead]

Wait wait wait.. Hold up... I'm get'n out my measure'n stick!!

 

[glassbow201]

I still have the receipt if you want proof, lol! I'll put a ruler next to it in the picture!

 

[kuger]

Yea,three in one day consecutively.......on second thought,I will sell the one left to you....you like junk,send the $$$$,They are crap and shouldnt even be sold..................

 

[glassbow201]

As I wrote plainly above, I don't need one. In addition, I personally would not buy a used bowfishing spinner of any brand, unless very cheap at yard sale/auction. Generally people sell stuff because it didn't work for them. If a spinner didn't work for someone, it probably went through at least one hang up. On a spinner, each hang up has a chance of doing damage that is not obvious. Particularly in this case, where it was shot once, lost, then miraculously found today after...how many years was it? Who knows what kind of corrosion there is in there, especially if it got wet and bounced back into the boat somehow. :dig:

Besides the three-in-a-day story, the other story I often read on here about zebcos is the "put a zebco on my bow and used it for the first time at the "insert big tournament here" and the BRAND NEW POS didn't last 5 shots before it broke and I couldn't finish! Thanks a lot POS zebco!" Genius move there to try something for the first time in the dark at the big game when it counts! Like an NFL player wearing a new kind of shoe for the first time in the super bowl! Or ball player using a different type of bat in the world series.

I did need another reel last month when my dad got a bow. I told him he could get a muzzy for a bit more, but he wanted to use what I am familiar with, and his rig was already heavy enough. I could have "upgraded" and got a new muzzy and given him one of my zebcos, but had no reason to. So we put a new 808 bowfisher on my dad's oneida, and as expected it works beautifully over an epoxy rest with 200ff, silicone spray, shoot thru rod, f&d seat. If I had any doubts about the safety or function I would not have went that way for my own father. He is 70 now and started bowfishing back in the day, tying to back with a bear hand wrap reel and dacron line, both recurves and compounds. Lots of snap backs even when you were careful as could be. So to him, the setup he has now is "the cat's meow". I started similarly with his old kit when I was 12, so I'd have to agree.

But again, if you want a muzzy and are okay with weight of it, they are not that much more than a new zebco or ti20 especially when you factor in the total cost including seat, rod, and line...let alone shipping. If I had heard of a muzzy when I got my first 808 I may have gone that way and probably would still be using it today.

 

[glassbow201]

My Zebco is working fine since I added the milk jug washer for drag.....to bad it still throws away arrows even when I push the button and it resets mid flight.

Fred you have a different definition of working fine than I do!

 

[kuger]

Glass,I owe you an apology......I shot Zebco's way back in the early 80's and they were great reels,they moved operations to China and they went to chit.I litterally had a five gallon bucket of broke reels I eventually threw away.The reason I had that many was until Muzzy came out the only other reels were the Shakespears and they werent any better,so we had to shoot em...junk!I carried 5 or 6 at all times.Muzzies.......expensive and still break,but not brand new out of the box like these Zebs' did last weekend....and I carry extra parts on my boat for muzzies...and several spare reels(Seldom need them,but have them)If they work for you,you are awesome,and I wish I knew how you do it....I have no idea!!


OK,wow....I didnt read your moronic reply above first.....I said he broke three this weekend(wasnt a tourney),and threw all three in the lake......I was cleaning the boat out last night and found one in the dry locker.....called him to see if he wanted the pos cause I dont want it in my boat...no he didnt,throw it away.This isnt my first rodeo pard.I have been shooting fish for over 25 years and have never shot anything but spinners.Dont get on here and treat me like some Johhny come lately.Zebco's are junk,you like em,just keep shooting em,but I will tell every new guy,or anybody that asks just waht a pile of steaming chit they are cause nobody should pay hard earned money to go out and have to fight that garbage

 

[wheelie]

I have all three reels, Muzzy, Zebco 808 and Ti20. Zebco and Ti20 both sent me new reels under their one year warranty. Muzzy I am not sure about warranty because it just keeps on going. Please remember Muzzy supports the bowfishing world. Take my word for it as I am totally unsponsered and speak the truth. CHEERS!

 

[Bo Beaver]

Anybody mention Muzzy yet?

 

[glassbow201]

I'm sorry I have to do this but I post in grounded truth and have no need to make anything up. Nothing to sell, no one to appease. I just tell the truth of what I experienced and what I observed. That way I don't have to remember what story I told in the past contradicting me. You could look at my posts from a year back and if you asked me the same thing, I would likely write about the same thing, along with what I learned since then.

Keep in mind I wouldn't be doing this except for your words above inferring I am a moron.

OK,wow....I didnt read your moronic reply above first.....

First off, you made no mention of when your cousin went through three zebco 888s consecutively. You did not mention it was your cousin until after my most recent post yesterday. That is the post you were able to go back and rage-edit. I'm assuming you were not able to go back and edit the other ones since people posted afterward. I have read the 3-in-a-night story many times over the years with variations so I may have gotten confused. Sometimes you, sometimes your buddy, and this time it is your cousin...plus I'm sure I read it posted by others on the old sites. I know I've read the tournament-let-down story more than once, but I do not attribute that to you.

I'm not saying your 3 in a night story is not true - I just hope from now one your cousin is willing to draw from your 25 years of bowfishing experience. It is strange that he would not take your advice on something you have been so vocal about.


Here is where you break 2-3 zebcos a trip. Not your cousin, and not last weekend. That is what I meant when I said, "tell us again about the guy who broke 3 in one night."
http://bow.fishingcountry.com/forum...howthread.php?34840-Not-happy-with-my-muzzy-reel&p=554584&viewfull=1#post554584

Or maybe it was jeff...
http://bow.fishingcountry.com/forum...forums/showthread.php?18047-TI20s-vs-Muzzy-Reels&p=318657&viewfull=1#post318657

When someone has a problem with a muzzy, you insinuate it is their fault:
http://bow.fishingcountry.com/forum...howthread.php?34840-Not-happy-with-my-muzzy-reel&p=563336&viewfull=1#post563336

Or admit that they all break (THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!)... but buy a muzzy because they "support bowfishing"...
http://bow.fishingcountry.com/forum...hread.php?5791-Best-reels-to-use-Muzzy-Zebco-808&p=107543&viewfull=1#post107543

Here is where you say you broke 15 of them POS zebcos and they are locked up - not the pins breaking!
http://bow.fishingcountry.com/forum...read.php?25940-zebco-808-bowfisher-modifications&p=425077&viewfull=1#post425077

and...wait for it...Here is where you have a 5 gallon bucket of them, 90% with broken pins...
http://bow.fishingcountry.com/forum...m/forums/showthread.php?22019-Broken-Pickup-Pins&p=372352&viewfull=1#post372352

Here is one of the tournament testers that I was referring to above that blamed the zebco. I reiterate my above, don't go to war with a rifle you never shot! http://bow.fishingcountry.com/forum...read.php?25940-zebco-808-bowfisher-modifications&p=434844&viewfull=1#post434844

Here you say a TI20 lasts almost a season...
http://bow.fishingcountry.com/forum...orums/showthread.php?3534-Zebco-808-Bowfisher-Reel&p=69154&viewfull=1#post69154
which contradicts your statement in your rageedit about shakespeare being junk.

The reason I had that many was until Muzzy came out the only other reels were the Shakespears and they werent any better,so we had to shoot em...junk!I carried 5 or 6 at all times.

There are more but I think I made my point. Hell this is only on new BFC, I used to read the old one and bowfishusa as well.

Exaggeration is fun, I know, but don't infer that I'm a moron to support your exaggerations.

As I said in my above posts... there is not much reason to go with a zebco over a muzzy except for weight savings. They are not much cheaper than the muzzys, and when you add it the rest of the kit, $20 difference ain't much. But to insist that zebcos are utter junk is ridiculous. Lots of people have used them and continue to use them with success. If I had many problems with zebco reels, I would not be using them after all this time, let alone get a another one for my dad. The muzzys are built the heaviest and have a pickup pin that breaks easily by design - sacrificial pins are GOOD THING for bowfishing! It is easy to get a hold of markland here on BFC if you problems. But...I do not agree with the buying muzzy for the sake of it because they support bowfishing...because unless I shoot tournaments and get free prizes, they absolutely don't. Heck, if you look at all the fish dumping and stuff that has come of popularizing the sport of bowfishing...how is any of that good?

The ti20, I have never used, but a lot of people have luck with them. They aren't junk any more than the others. RPM is using them in a kit now, just as Cajun uses the Zebco in a kit, and Muzzy has their own reel in a kit. All the spinners will last pretty well if used correctly, and all will break if not used correctly. The big problem with the zebcos, as I said from the start when I answered the original question point for point, is the 808 bowfisher needs that 80 or 90 lb dacron line put in the garbage and replaced with 200FF or equivalent proper spinner line.

 

[Hoosier Bowfishermen]

I use a ti20 and i havent had problems with mine my buddy got a muzzy and has had alot of problems with it

 

[augnmike]

I just got my Muzzy and 500' of Monkey Wire today. Put the line on, stripped it off soaked after putting 1/3 back on, again that 2/3 and again at full. Tightened all screws and I am ready to rock. Can't wait to try it out. I still have four Ti20's that have the reel handle mods done on them though. Other than the reel handles getting loose on the Ti's they are a good reel for me. If I had occasionally checked the handles and tightened them I probably would not have even had the handle problem but once fish show up my brain goes nuts and I lose concentration. Next thing I know the screw is out, handle is in the water and I am pissed. More of a user problem than the product.

 

[scotte17]

I bought a Muzzy XD first because I've use Muzzy products, with great success, in archery. Now I continue to shoot them because parts are easy to get and replace (self-proclaimed certified Muzzy reel mechanic) and because I LOVE my Fanman Reel Cap.